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  • ffraxis
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2006
    • 114

    #1

    Song with freeze

    Not sure if the rules changed but according to the tassel sticky (which was modified) it says explicitly no freezes.

    -I'm Sick of Uprock (difficulty 11, dance 2)

    freeze in the beginning.

    Not sure if it is allowed but if it isn't just wanted to bring that to your attention.
  • kmay
    Don't forget me
    • Jan 2007
    • 6511

    #2
    Re: Song with freeze

    a freeze is also known as a hold, an arrow that needs to be held down. The beginning of the song glithes, its not a "freeze"

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    • Zageron
      Zageron E. Tazaterra
      FFR Administrator
      • Apr 2007
      • 6592

      #3
      Re: Song with freeze

      The way FFR is build, IIRC, makes freezes impossible. And FFR is built around a No-Freeze style. So, I doubt they will ever be added.

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      • RB_Quackies
        FFR Veteran
        • May 2007
        • 220

        #4
        Re: Song with freeze

        I uh, mentioned this to Sprite- a few months ago but *cough cough* he didn't believe me

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        • ffraxis
          FFR Player
          • Jul 2006
          • 114

          #5
          Re: Song with freeze

          Originally posted by RB_Quackies
          I uh, mentioned this to Sprite- a few months ago but *cough cough* he didn't believe me
          maybe show him this thread and axe him to play the song and see if he agrees.

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          • Velocity
            Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Administrator
            • Jul 2007
            • 1817

            #6
            Re: Song with freeze

            Freezes are capable within the system. But will never be allowed.

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            • ELRayford
              Custom User Title
              • May 2004
              • 1547

              #7
              Re: Song with freeze

              He is talking about the BPM change or "freeze" in the frame at the very beginning. I believe it is the only one in the song. I thought it was buggy lag first time through it. Go play it and see for yourself.

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              • bmah
                shots FIRED
                Profile Moderator
                FFR Simfile Author
                Global Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 8448

                #8
                Re: Song with freeze

                Originally posted by ffraxis
                Not sure if the rules changed but according to the tassel sticky (which was modified) it says explicitly no freezes.

                -I'm Sick of Uprock (difficulty 11, dance 2)

                freeze in the beginning.

                Not sure if it is allowed but if it isn't just wanted to bring that to your attention.
                The rule regarding freezes refers to the holding of an arrow, not the pausing of the song's bpm. Just some terminology mix-up, that's all.

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                • Plan_Bsk81127
                  snooches
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6420

                  #9
                  Re: Song with freeze

                  I think he is mixing things up. The issue the in beg. of Uprock is a pause or lag spike due to the converter that was used for that file. Thats not a freeze like one in SM, its just a little bug in the conversion.

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                  • ffraxis
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 114

                    #10
                    Re: Song with freeze

                    ah i see.

                    will there be a fix or will it be kept there forever?

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                    • rushyrulz
                      Digital Dancing!
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 12985

                      #11
                      Re: Song with freeze

                      It might be fixed, but I don't really think it's that huge of a problem..


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                      • foxfire667
                        The FFRchiver
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2169

                        #12
                        Re: Song with freeze

                        Originally posted by ffraxis
                        ah i see.

                        will there be a fix or will it be kept there forever?
                        Got bored, think I completely fixed the stupid freeze problem for this level. Tested it all the way through on two different computers...the problem seemed to be that the blank frames before the actual song was at a rediculous number (65) while the actual streamsound data started immediately. This glitched it out and made the level freeze like that before starting the actual song normally.

                        What I did:
                        Rehashed the level and added 2 seconds of silence to the streamsound data. Seems to work sexy now...if they want the fix it's all theirs.
                        Last edited by foxfire667; 12-26-2010, 10:15 PM.
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                        • OneHandNow
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 5305

                          #13
                          Re: Song with freeze

                          OMFG THIS.

                          On the beginning of I'm Sick of Uprock, IT ALWAYS FREAKING LAGS. I can't AAA it - no way it's happening.

                          FIX THEFAKSLDJ CLSDJIFNG LAG. T-T

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                          • dore
                            caveman pornstar
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 6317

                            #14
                            Re: Song with freeze

                            freezes show up as two arrows in FFR (one on the arrow, one on the release). Uber Rave v1 has freezes in it, but it works out to be an 8th stream
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                            • aperson
                              FFR Hall of Fame
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3431

                              #15
                              Re: Song with freeze

                              Originally posted by foxfire667
                              Got bored, think I completely fixed the stupid freeze problem for this level. Tested it all the way through on two different computers...the problem seemed to be that the blank frames before the actual song was at a rediculous number (65) while the actual streamsound data started immediately. This glitched it out and made the level freeze like that before starting the actual song normally.

                              What I did:
                              Rehashed the level and added 2 seconds of silence to the streamsound data. Seems to work sexy now...if they want the fix it's all theirs.
                              Yep that's why we recommend padding silence on the front of files that start right when the song starts. 2 seconds is as long as it takes for the "ready" text to go up.

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