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  • cmal517
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2010
    • 7

    #1

    Question!

    Is there a bug with the secret songs, or do you have to re-unlock them every time you sign back on?
  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #2
    Re: Question!

    Secret songs are dependent on credit count. Fall below the required amount and you lose access to that song.

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    • cmal517
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2010
      • 7

      #3
      Re: Question!

      Oooohhh, so if you purchase songs, you lose your secret ones?

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      • cmal517
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2010
        • 7

        #4
        Re: Question!

        Clearly it's been years since I've been on here, I can't even access my original account anymore :[

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        • ~Zeta~
          Flag Master
          • Oct 2010
          • 2156

          #5
          Re: Question!

          Yup. Until you retain those credits again.

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          • aperson
            FFR Hall of Fame
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jul 2003
            • 3431

            #6
            Re: Question!

            What's the name of the account?

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            • rushyrulz
              Digital Dancing!
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2006
              • 12985

              #7
              Re: Question!

              Originally posted by ~Zeta~
              Yup. Until you retain those credits again.
              regain*


              Besides, they just reworked the secret list to include some songs and increase/decrease the requirements on the others.


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              • cmal517
                FFR Player
                • Oct 2010
                • 7

                #8
                Re: Question!

                That's the problem, I'm not sure. I thought it was Sakura_17 but I think I'm wrong because I tried it with my password, and I know for sure I remember the password, but it didn't work, and the e-mail I used was super old and I can't access it anymore =/

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                • bmah
                  shots FIRED
                  Profile Moderator
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  Global Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8448

                  #9
                  Re: Question!

                  Copy-pasting this suggestion I made from another thread, because it's completely relevant and I would like others to see this:

                  Well I think that songs you've unlocked from the secret section should STAY unlocked once you've reached the required number of credits for a secret song, and not disappear if your credit amount happens to fall below the requirements. If you unlocked a song before and cannot access it for this reason (you lost credits or the credit requirement changed after you unlocked it), it's not very fair. In almost any video game, an unlock remains unlocked after reaching the requirements.
                  Is there any way to code this into FFR? As opposed to "credit xxx = song unlocked above this amount, stays locked below this amount".

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                  • aperson
                    FFR Hall of Fame
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3431

                    #10
                    Re: Question!

                    There are 1127 people who have Sakura in their name on FFR, so I can't really help ya there, sorry.

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                    • cmal517
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 7

                      #11
                      Re: Question!

                      Lol, I had a feeling I wasn't going to see that account anymore :P

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                      • cmal517
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Re: Question!

                        Well, thanks for all the help everyone, I really appreciate it :]

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                        • devonin
                          Very Grave Indeed
                          Event Staff
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 10120

                          #13
                          Re: Question!

                          Originally posted by bmah
                          Copy-pasting this suggestion I made from another thread, because it's completely relevant and I would like others to see this:
                          But then someone just passes you 150k credits for 5 seconds and you pass them back, and have all the secret songs forever.

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                          • bmah
                            shots FIRED
                            Profile Moderator
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            Global Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8448

                            #14
                            Re: Question!

                            The ease of acquiring and trading large amounts of credits seems counterintuitive to the aspect of earning credits for rewards. IMO, I don't like how songs get relocked after losing a certain amount of credit, but I don't like the other aspect either. All in all, credits aren't really a great measure of hard work.

                            After some thinking, I think the secret section is unnecessary and should be removed altogether. The songs should go into the shop to be purchased with credits. As it stands though, you have this situation where you lose out on songs if you don't have enough or you have people acquiring credits too easily by trading. Does a secret section really even has its place? Why does it actually need to be distinguished from purchased songs, when both Purchased and Secret sections both have the aim of unlocking songs through credit amount?

                            tl;dr I've came to a new conclusion that there are many faults in the unlocking of songs in the Secret section. Just move all of those songs to the Purchased section where it can basically accomplish the same thing but in a fairer and more conventional manner.

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                            • warriormag17
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 455

                              #15
                              Re: Question!

                              Or... Just make it by grandtotal, converted from whatever amount of tokens a secret song needed -> grandtotal.

                              If you get what I mean.

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