Full Combo Stat?

[benny58624]

Re: Full Combo Stat?

FC's don't mean much for me on ffr. It is easy to mash and get a FC, like I did on "extratone pirates" for the token. Now after the raw scoring update, it is very easy to lose your FC so that stat is pointless.
It would be better if the game kept track of AA's instead. It is impossible to mash for AA's, so actual skill is required. After gaining an AA, it is impossible to lose it because a better raw score gives you at least an AA (not 100% sure about this but it seems logical).

[Rapta]

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I like to think of this as "Let's not take things away from FFR, but let's add onto and improve them for a better experience instead!" I may just be a guy who doesn't like taking something away to make change, but that's kind of how I feel.

Zenith's idea sounds great: FCs should be recognized as once FC'ing = Permanently FC'd

[One Winged Angel]

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I'll msg the other GMs and admins to see what they think, but I'm a fan of both having a bar that recognizes a full combo on a song as long as it's been done at least once, OR replacing the FC bar with one that tracks AAs (achieving at least 99% of the raw score possible for the file). Slight preference for the latter tbh since it doesn't endorse mashing.

[_Zenith_]

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An AA stat tracker would be nice; though having FCs completely removed is an absurd request.

The FC counter being if 0 misses then FC so it stays there would also be nice but that again is a little tricky I'd assume.

While we are on the topic of AAs, how is the current % calculated and what is the lowest boundary of getting an AA? I got a 2-0-0-1 on Storm Raid Battle the other day and it recorded the score as "100.0%" AA, so that is particularly why I'm asking.

[benny58624]

Re: Full Combo Stat?

The % is the percentage of raw score that you have compared to the raw score of an AAA. It is probably rounded to the nearest 0,1. For example your 2-0-0-1 on Storm Raid Battle: your raw score is 118545, the AAA raw score is 118600. So you got around 99,9536%. This is closer to 100% than 99,9% so is rounded up.

[Charmoeleon]

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Might be a bit late to the party here, but coming from a D1 perspective, FCs are actually a really good goal to have in this game when you're first starting out, just like Rapta said.

For instance, I'm currently making it my goal to FC as many songs as I can (using skills, not keysmashing), and it's actually helping me a lot in terms of getting better at the game. Take those green letters away, and it wouldn't really feel like I've made any progress over the 1.8 years or however long I've been playing this game. I just think that removing FCs would alienate beginners because they wouldn't get visual correspondence informing them that they're getting better.

As for how FC are handled now, I'm not sure. I would assume that if you played a song where your best raw score is an FC, and your new raw score for this session was better than that (without getting an FC), then it would replace the score for the current song, making you lose the FC.
I know permanent FCs have been discussed already, and I think that if there's a way to do that, that'd be ideal.

As for the FC tokens... well, if permanent FCs were a thing, then they wouldn't have to be changed, right?

[sickufully]

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Kinda expanding on my previous comment, could we add labels for every song, no matter what the score?

So just like we have the yellow AAA, the green FC, the grey Unplayed and the black Blackflag labels, would it be hard to add in AA, A, B, C, D, E, Avgflag, Missflag, Booflag & Omniflag labels?

Honestly, it may seem a little pointless having a C, D or E label but it could motivate you to clean up all E ranked songs or D ranked songs. Like another sort of milestone once everything is above the E rank or D rank or whatever rank.

More on OT, I personally do like the idea of the AA rank being added if the rest weren't. FC's are meaningful to some people, mainly newer and less skilled players, but AA's seem to be more meaningful for higher skilled players. Maybe add something in the options to change the display from FC's to AA's?

[2EdgedVictory]

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I would say keep FC's and have a permanent FC bar. FC's are a good goal for bona fide, non mashing beginners to strive for. If we only had AAA's, or even AA's, the game would be too biased towards more advanced players since it takes a bit of time before one is comfortable getting AAA's. If FC's were removed, I think there should be A's instead. It's not incredibly difficult and is a stepping stone up to AA's and AAA's for newer players.

[Hakulyte]

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If we added a mash FC counter with the FC bar, what would be a decent limit to consider a song mashed?

[AragakiAyase]

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100 boos?

[SK8R43]

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Depends on the difficulty. anything under 95, pretty much over 30 boos is mashing. Anything over id day 50