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  • s1rnight
    ( ŻuŻ)-b
    FFR Music Producer
    • Aug 2011
    • 392

    #1

    additional ranking past the AAA~?

    hello! every time i look at rankings of anything that isnt an obscenely difficult song i always seem to see a big wall of perfects, which i guess is ok but it could use a bit more... interest. particularly when like 50 ppl got it already Ż uŻ

    since this web site seems to be interested in pushing the limits of extreme accuracy (not to my personal taste... but i don't mind!!) i thought it would be an cool idea to further distinguish rankings on a song by their percentages of amazings. it wouldn't count towards any unlocks or bonuses or anything like that but it be a nice way to keep ppl on their toes to try for a "no. 1" place on a song once everything else in it's been done with

    urs humbly,

    Team GOAT
    Last edited by s1rnight; 04-3-2015, 05:05 AM.
  • LaZboy77
    #149
    • Feb 2009
    • 148

    #2
    Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

    I don't play stepmania, but I think that there is a AAAA rank for getting 'Marvelous' accuracy on every arrow. I know that there is an option to do that in FFR's R^3 Engine settings, but I'm not sure if hitting every note with a 'Marvelous' rank will get you a "quadA" (or whatever they call it). Either way, it shouldn't be able to register in your profile stats because they only display your AAA's, FC's, and aquired Tier Points.

    Idk, if I was actually good at this game and had like 1000 AAA's, then I'd probably be pissed if I had to play all those songs again to have achieved the best possible rank lol. Hell, I can't even imagine how long it would take me to get all 'Marvelous'[es] on Wandering Man (about a level 30 song). The window of time you'd have to hit 'Marvelous' would be very small.
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    • s1rnight
      ( ŻuŻ)-b
      FFR Music Producer
      • Aug 2011
      • 392

      #3
      Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

      mm~ tru. i definitely wouldn't feel right having it as a viewable profile stat or an "intended goal" type dealie, and i feel like the main "event" so to speak should still be gettin the AAA/nice yellow text/tier pointz Ż uŻ that said i feel like it'd be a nice new dimension to keep the competition fresh in a way that isnt goin for the relatively small Hard Songz ppl play

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      • s1rnight
        ( ŻuŻ)-b
        FFR Music Producer
        • Aug 2011
        • 392

        #4
        Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

        as long as it was as light a distinction as necessary i think it could work without destroying too much site form, hehe. could even keep the rank 1 and have it only come into play when "ranking" the order of users on the leaderboard page. just to keep the thing from looking so arbitrary~

        the only thing that really bothers me about it at current is that ordering it by the 200 most recent (?? maybe its random??) AAAs feels a bit meaningless compared to what could be there, heh. doesn't rly give much of a 'feel' if that makes sense
        Last edited by s1rnight; 04-3-2015, 06:46 AM.

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        • _Zenith_
          Accuracy Player
          • Mar 2011
          • 4629

          #5
          Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

          Getting AAAA's on FFR is nearly impossible due to how tight the timing windows between Amazing and Perfect is. Only people who could pull off AAAA's would be high D7'ers.





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          • s1rnight
            ( ŻuŻ)-b
            FFR Music Producer
            • Aug 2011
            • 392

            #6
            Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

            well... yes. that's partially the point... i'm not suggesting it be a legitimate goal for ppl to strive for in as far as just a way to make leaderboards a little more varied & fresh. for example a rank 1 AAA with 82% amazings would get u higher up the page than a rank 1 AAA with 79% amazings, etc

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            • mrpreggers
              D7 Elite Keymasher
              • Feb 2011
              • 3393

              #7
              Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

              there's a lot of things that seem to go into amazing accuracy it's not consistent enough for me to want to see rankings based on it

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              • Dynam0
                The Dominator
                • Sep 2005
                • 8987

                #8
                Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                fiffer accuracy is entirely dependent on the game running optimally (i'm just mad it runs like crap for me it's probably not a horrible idea)

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                • Godnick

                  #9
                  Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                  That would make the hi-scores more interesting, as long as it's worth the same as perfects but shows up in the hi-scores like you did better even though point-wise you didn't.
                  It would give people something to do and work on.
                  I use the amazing accuracy and it helps me play better. Overall if people tried to work on getting amazings they'd probably improve too. It makes perfects look easier to get in my opinion.
                  Hi-score board would look legit rather than wtf? We all got the same exact score? levelrank-wise, aaa or aaaa still a rank 1, why not then?

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                  • rushyrulz
                    Digital Dancing!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 12985

                    #10
                    Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                    I only read the OP and here is my response:



                    AA is so variable for me across any two given songs, it's not practical.
                    Last edited by rushyrulz; 04-3-2015, 09:17 AM.


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                    • danceflashrevo
                      scumfan is scared of aa
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 488

                      #11
                      Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                      I think that if there was anything, there should be some ranking system for rates. However one of the reasons that I like FFR ranking a lot more than osu ranking is that everyone's on an equal playing ground when it comes to scoring. If you AAA a song you have the best score possible, no doubt about it. It doesn't matter how you play it, everyone's equal with how it's played. Meh I don't even know what I'm saying in this post, more of a stream of consciousness post.

                      Why are you here?

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                      • XCV
                        has nice tits
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 744

                        #12
                        Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                        not everyone uses r^3 for one reason or another (ATTN: ItsOnlyDanO) so i think the most you could do would be toggle marvs on/off on the hiscore page, and maaaaaybe add an option to sort aaa's by ma instead of time

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                        • lurker
                          ur worst nitemare
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1628

                          #13
                          Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                          Originally posted by _Zenith_
                          Getting AAAA's on FFR is nearly impossible due to how tight the timing windows between Amazing and Perfect is.
                          It's even worse because each individual note in an FFR file can be offsync by as much as half the Amazing window due to how the conversion process works (notes are snapped to the nearest frame [1/30th of a second, also the size of the Amazing window], so they can be offsync by as much as half of that).
                          some feathery f**k

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                          • gold stinger
                            Signature Extraordinare~~
                            Event Staff
                            Game Manager
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6428

                            #14
                            Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                            terrible idea.

                            AAAA's are impossible across just about every song in FFR. Not because of how hard the songs are, but because of varying bpm's within the songs changing the way the frames required for the correct judgement compared to every note.

                            You would have to get a frame perfect response for every arrow in a song, and that is beyond impossible, where as a AAA even now is harboring into the zone of unfathomable with harder unforgivable songs.

                            What I'm really getting at, is that it doesn't come down to skill, it comes down to RNG.
                            Last edited by gold stinger; 04-3-2015, 02:21 PM.
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            butts.



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                            • One Winged Angel
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                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 10837

                              #15
                              Re: additional ranking past the AAA~?

                              ok lets do it


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