Don't make high score first-come first-serve + total step

[MarauderIIC]

I was thinking it might improve a little if we saw more variation in the score lists by making it so the NEWEST person goes higher. Two people have scores of 300,000, newest one is higher. That way you might be a little more challenged to keep your spot, too, if you care.

Oh, and add a bug-check thing that sees how many steps there are in a song and calculates the highest score possible all perfects? Then it could check every so often for a score higher than it and notify you, removing said person from list. Also, it would stop certain bugs like the one where I got the hellbeat arrows transposed into a different song, which probably allowed me to get a higher score than was possible, if I had actually been good enough to hit all the arrows at that slow tempo. :P

(Depending on whether or not you want to catch people who hack their scores in, you might consider putting the highest score possible on the score screen...)

[dunnski007]

ok.. well lets see.. first off.. if your online more then you'll be on when the new songs are released and will be able to get a high score up fast if your good enough. second, the highest possible scores are being altered by secret arrows, and NOT hacks. they may be considered hacks to a certain extent but it is possible to use them and they add greatly to the combo score. im sure people know enough about the hi=scores and how they will be changed in R2 or whenever they can, but for now.. just cope with them. what does it matter if you cant even get perfect on a song?

[soccr743]

First of all, some of the hackers would not get a score like that by actually playing the song... They just have to be smart and able to hack the data after intercepting it which is pretty hard to do in all...

And there will not be any secret arrows at all in R2 so that will solve some of the problems with some of the scores. Yet there will always be somebody who can hack a score...

-----Soccr743-----

[Squeek]

Also, using a Stack instead of a Queue is a horrifying idea... Pop()ing variables from a stack means you have to remove the top one first. Dequeue()s on the other hand remove from the front of a list. You can always peekTop() on a stack but you can never remove anything under the top section.

if (user == n00b && score = "AAA")
{
highScores.dequeue(user);
System.out.println("This person sucks and does not deserve to be on the high score list. Ohsnap.");
}

Java rules.

~Squeek

PS - If that made no sense, take computer science next year.

[LeneiaBlackheart]

Re: Don't make high score first-come first-serve + total ste

Oh, and add a bug-check thing that sees how many steps there are in a song and calculates the highest score possible all perfects? Then it could check every so often for a score higher than it and notify you, removing said person from list. Also, it would stop certain bugs like the one where I got the hellbeat arrows transposed into a different song, which probably allowed me to get a higher score than was possible, if I had actually been good enough to hit all the arrows at that slow tempo. :P

I actually think thats a good idea.
The scoring shouldn't be based on who gets secret arrows or hacks
but on your actual talent in the song.

[MarauderIIC]

was just thinking, there's a maximum high score for each song, right? So, the top bunch of people stay there permanently... Where's the fun in that? Unless of course you're one of the ones who is ALWAYS online for a new release and ALWAYS nails your spot on the high-score board. (But there are more who are not on there than there are those that are on )

what does it matter if you cant even get perfect on a song?

Yeah, if I was online more often and played often enough to be able to master every song in the universe with AAA's, it would make more difference to me. But that's not really the point of posting suggestions.

Pop()ing variables from a stack means you have to remove the top one first.

I'm more C++ than Java, so, I'm thinking vectors :P but can't you just .remove() from the middle? Like a linked list. Remove the middle and link the other two together. It wouldn't even have to move someone up (ie, wouldn't have to keep track of more than the 20 top or however many there are, I never count) -- who would care about one missing person from the high-score list? If you managed to get 21st you can probably manage again... but if that seems cruel and unusual, can always keep track of 21, 22, 25(!).

[Tasselfoot]

for the record... if 2 people tie, they have the same rank. 2nd... i was THE first person to AAA the color of battle, and my name is not on the high score list (although there are 3 AAA scores on the list)...

this tells me 1 thing... IF YOU GET A SCORE FIRST, IT DOES NOT GUARENTEE THAT YOU WILL BE ON THE HIGH SCORE LIST. to further prove this, my name IS on the high score list for 2-3 songs that i AAAed, and i KNOW that a good 10+ people AAAed it before me. so, whether it is random, or based on some other variable, i do not know... but it is not based on first to accomplish.

maybe if you had a AAA on 25 songs, or appeared on 17 top 10 lists, like i do, you'd already know this.

[MarauderIIC]

It's entirely possible. Thank you for clearing that up, then.

To reiterate since people seem intent on not commenting on the suggestion of the high score board (and instead seem to either be bragging on themselves or dissing me. That's the way it reads, anyway. Text doesn't convey emotion very well.)

Idea: Get new score. Put on board. Bump old people off.

[Squeek]

How does getting the newest tie for high score justify bumping the first one off? He was, after all, the first one to do it and deserves from credit for that. They allow you to take consolation in the fact that it is ever possible to TIE for that rank. If the newest people bumped off the older ones with the same score, then those older ones would have to replay it over and over again to get back on. I think it's better to have someone kick you off only if their score is better than yours and you were #10.

~Squeek

[ultima301]

Re: Don't make high score first-come first-serve + total ste

Tieing a high score will give you the same rank as the person you are tied with, but will list you a position lower..this system is fine the way it is. However, Synth SHOULD bring back the top 50 high score chart, which was viewable before the new interface, but then dissipeared for unknown reasons. Database limits perhaps? It should be put back though.

Oh, and add a bug-check thing that sees how many steps there are in a song and calculates the highest score possible all perfects? Then it could check every so often for a score higher than it and notify you, removing said person from list. Also, it would stop certain bugs like the one where I got the hellbeat arrows transposed into a different song, which probably allowed me to get a higher score than was possible, if I had actually been good enough to hit all the arrows at that slow tempo. :P

I actually think thats a good idea.
The scoring shouldn't be based on who gets secret arrows or hacks
but on your actual talent in the song.

This has been suggested many, many times.