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  • igotrhythm
    Fractals!
    • Sep 2004
    • 6535

    #16
    Re: Flash Flash Revolution: The Future of

    Originally posted by XCV
    One thing that bothers me here.

    AdventureQuest recently started running spots on TV.
    ...
    In short - yes, we need to make money to keep it going, but for the sake of all that's sacred, please don't go overly commercial.
    First part is what. I actually came here from there back in 2004, and while I haven't been to their sites in at least a year (I like to think I've matured beyond what they can provide for), it never ceases to amaze me the things Artix Entertainment has achieved from their humble beginnings.

    Second part is something more people would likely talk about. I'm against FFR selling out as much as the next guy. Even Synth agreed with this a while ago, saying that even if FFR was worth over a million dollars on the open market, which it was at the time, it was "his baby" and wouldn't give it up. Merchandising tie-ins such as the various T-shirts seemed like a good idea, but the fact remains that only active members of our community would likely buy them, which sort of makes it worthless to try to turn a profit from such a thing.

    Subscriptions were a very good idea for the time being, ensuring a steady stream of money from those that wished to retain their "beta tester" status. However, this ended in failure as subscriptions were repeatedly given away as prizes in official contests.

    I'm in support of the "record label" concept. Many of our independent artists rely on music or video hosting sites like Newgrounds or YouTube to distribute their labors of love. SuperGreenX managed to take this a step farther and release entire albums through FFR, but I personally object to the "support token" idea. You don't even have to tell the person you're buying it for where the music comes from. If they like the music, they'll look for more stuff like it, and they'll eventually come here.

    Finally, we come to the problem of mobile FFR. It's been a well-kept secret that the original R1 engine allowed the player to click on the receptors instead of hitting the corresponding keys, which made for rather hectic moving and clicking of mice. I don't know if this is also true for the updated engines, but the fact remains that a "mobile" version of not just the game, but the entire site, would have to be built from the ground up. Perhaps a compromise in an FFR app similar to what was put onto Kongregate some years back is in order. In any case, it's a shitload of work.
    Originally posted by thesunfan
    I literally spent 10 minutes in the library looking for the TWG forum on Smogon and couldn't find it what the fuck is this witchcraft IGR

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    • Reincarnate
      x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
      • Nov 2010
      • 6332

      #17
      Re: Flash Flash Revolution: The Future of

      Originally posted by foilman8805
      The financials and business aspects weren't the reason why the site itself went down (those were server malfunctions, etc), but the quality of the site and the feeling that this website was "for fun" disappeared when Synthlight and company began searching for deals with record labels and the like.
      what is this babble

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      • Mans0n
        Sun and Stars
        FFR Music Producer
        • Sep 2006
        • 2907

        #18
        Re: Flash Flash Revolution: The Future of

        While A lot of the suggested idea's are really good, I personally feel like it's kind of unnecessary. While it would help out with bringing in more members and what not, I feel like FFR is fine exactly the way it is.

        And none of this is probably going to happen unless truly necessary, or a overwhelming majority of users REALLY want it to happen.
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        • qqwref
          stepmania archaeologist
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 4092

          #19
          Re: Flash Flash Revolution: The Future of

          Originally posted by rushyrulz
          Community Links: This is a good idea for things like staiain's wiki and other FFR-related sites, but since Thirdstyle and KBO aren't reaching out to us, I see no reason to reach out to them. What good is it to link to their sites with no link to FFR on theirs?
          It's not about linking to their sites, but about trying to bring in their community. I know KBO and TS (*especially* TS) are doing their own thing and trying to get as far away from FFR as possible, but I don't think most users agree with that. In fact, I bet most people just think more games means more songs to play and more skills to perfect. So we shouldn't think of it as giving those sites free publicity, but rather as giving the users a bigger group of people to hang out with. There should definitely be a centralized area where everyone is welcome (regardless of "affiliation") and where all the latest news is located - and this would be better for EVERY site because every player could try any game they want. Keep in mind, simply by getting all the good stepartists and pack creators to be in one place, the community's almost totally centralized already.

          The really good thing about FFR (from this perspective) is that FFR as a concept isn't trying to make its name known anymore. KBO and TS are still in that race and so there is a lot of higher-level rhythm game politics going on. FFR, on the other hand, is well beyond the stage where we have to push other people out of the way - now that the site is back from the dead, the focus is really on making the people here happy, and that's the perfect breeding ground for a farther-reaching community.
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          • Netjet!
            Sic itur ad astra
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2008
            • 4701

            #20
            Re: Flash Flash Revolution: The Future of

            Originally posted by Reincarnate
            what is this babble
            Um, this.
            RIP Steve Van Ness <3

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            • Netjet!
              Sic itur ad astra
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2008
              • 4701

              #21
              Re: Flash Flash Revolution: The Future of

              Sorry for the two word reply, but nothing coherent can come out of my brain at this point, after reading this thread. Many things misunderstood, that's for sure, and many suggestions are popping up that are definitely not the right way to go, in my opinion.
              RIP Steve Van Ness <3

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