FCing 12s?

[Sweagen]

After I've come back to FFR, with my improved skill, I've come to realize that I have better PA than most FFR players, but when it comes to 12s and 13s, I just don't have the fingerspeed and reading ability to get through the huge mashups of notes that come at me...

It's gotten frustrating to the point where I can sometimes Out PA better players but get crushed by their massive combo which I can't even touch.

I was wondering if anyone had any tips, specifically, just to FC harder songs?

[Zon Fire]

Re: FCing 12s?

usually their is a trade off between a boo fest and actually fc'ing a guru file, imo, their are "easy" 12's and ones that are like oh gawd this is BS. the best advice I can give to you is practice on SM for awhile, and come back to FFR. you'll notice that the charts on this game in particular are somewhat easier than most mainstream SM charts. as for practicing on FFR terms, try PA'ing FMO's before worrying about FGO's

[Sweagen]

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I can already PA FMOs very well (my best is like a 3 good on 3020 or w/e it's called), but still have a lot of trouble FCing some of the tougher, FGOish ones.

People have told me to go try Stepmania since I started playing FFR... I never did since I couldn't figure out which version to download and I didn't want to have to download every song I wanted to play (ALSO it doesn't look like they have credits or ranks on their site, totally lame)... and I improved without it... <_<

[foxfire667]

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Welcome to the crappy combo based system that is FFR's scoring formula. As you must be very well aware of by this point, the only way to achieve a decent score on a song is to get the highest possible combo you can, and the only way your score usually comes even remotely close on the leader-boards is through obtaining an FC.

So when playing someone in multiplayer, as the winner is determined by the highest total score, the only way you can ensure victory is to obtain the greatest combo you can (hopefully besting your opponents combo by at least 50 or so). This means you'll have to throw PA into the back-burner, for only when you are certain your combo won't be broken.

The only real tip I can give you aside from "practice, practice, get better, play StepMania" is really to get into the habit of mashing. If you don't want to mash, then you can't get fed up with losing in mp...because everyone else is going to mash to get a higher score than you. If you don't want to mash for better ranks in the leader-boards, then you can't get fed up with having a higher rank because it's only going to get worse and worse as more people mash.

It isn't like you have to get 1,000's of boos or anything, just an occasional extra jumps to keep the combo alive is probably all you'll need...unless you really can't read any of the song. Also, for StepMania, download 3.9 off the StepMania website. Stepmania has nothing to do with ranks or special awards...it's just play to have fun, which is why I enjoy playing it so much. No getting worked up over ranks, no getting frustrated over not AAA'ing crap, just play to enjoy yourself and the music. Although I admit it's nice to have the best of both worlds, which is why I play both FFR and StepMania.

[Sweagen]

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DANG Foxfire that was a really helpful post! How did you know I was talking about MP?

I was expecting the practicing tip buttt I mean, if mashing is the way I'll have to go for a little while (until my skill improves) thenn mashing is the way I guess I'm going to have to do it.

[foxfire667]

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DANG Foxfire that was a really helpful post! How did you know I was talking about MP?

I was expecting the practicing tip buttt I mean, if mashing is the way I'll have to go for a little while (until my skill improves) thenn mashing is the way I guess I'm going to have to do it.

I'm glad you thought it was!

Yeah I'm not saying that mashing is something you should always do no matter what, try your best to make out patterns, as that is how you improve skill-wise. It's just that FFR's scoring system makes combo the greatest priority, so obviously if you want the better scores you'll also have to give combo this priority. Specifically what I do when I can't read a pattern at all is one of two things:
[12][34] jump-trill alternating mash (for ridiculous streams) or
[1234] quad-hold for really close patterns

Everyone generally says to get StepMania because it has stricter judging options and will improve your skill MUCH faster than through FFR. I would definitely look into this if you want to keep PA'ing and lower your need to have to mash at all.

As for knowing about mp...this kind of gave it away!

It's gotten frustrating to the point where I can sometimes Out PA better players but get crushed by their massive combo which I can't even touch.

...if only it were based on raw scoring instead of combo based, oh well.

[ScarletSky]

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all this SM talk... You guys are going to get me back into it. D:

[MaxGhost]

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My problem with SM is the sheer amount of time it takes to set it up (finding songs and such).

[Zon Fire]

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My problem with SM is the sheer amount of time it takes to set it up (finding songs and such).

http://www.keybeatonline.com/forums/...read.php?t=675

[EAGAMES]

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Mashing isn't necessary because FFR is easy. Watch replays to study patterns.

[kmay]

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OMG I WAS THE SAME WAY FOR SO LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

then i played SM for 3 months, dumps dumps dumps. got my speed up and TA DA!!

[MinaciousGrace]

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huge mashup of notes lolz

[MaxGhost]

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http://www.keybeatonline.com/forums/...read.php?t=675

Nice. Now all I need is the FFR noteskin and hit effects to make it look about the same. I'm kinda way too used to FFR lol.
Also, is one version of SM better than the other? I.e. are some of the older ones better?

[MarukuAntoni]

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all this SM talk... You guys are going to get me back into it. D:

I know. I just downloaded SM again. Playing it again reminds me of the good days.

[bmah]

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Nice. Now all I need is the FFR noteskin and hit effects to make it look about the same. I'm kinda way too used to FFR lol.
Also, is one version of SM better than the other? I.e. are some of the older ones better?

FFR noteskin somewhere in here: http://www.keybeatonline.com/forums/...ead.php?t=2330

I currently use v 3.9, just because it's more stable than 3.95. Several people have suggested using SSC, which I have no clue on, nor do I even know what the acronym stands for.