One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

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  • Sweagen
    FFR Veteran
    • Jun 2008
    • 333

    #1

    One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

    Well, I don't know if it's true, but that has been one of my beliefs since I started FFR.

    I'm a spread player (have been since I began playing), and I've always believed one-handers, even when lacking the skill of other types of players, to be deserving of the highest respect in the FFR community because they are the ones who take the hardest and most impressive route in the game.

    However, almost every one-hander I've ever met describe a disgust at their one-handed playing ability, and always desperately hope to migrate to spread or some other such format... I don't see why they should take shame at their ability to play one-handedly, it's something to be very proud of.

    Discuss: What is your opinion on one-handed players, and if you are one, what is your own opinion on the way you play? Share one-hander stories in this thread, etc.
  • Matrixdude
    And She Screams My Name
    • Jun 2006
    • 1351

    #2
    Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

    Played with one hand for three months

    Switched to index

    Improved intensely

    Played index for a year

    Switched to spread

    Improved intensely

    Conclusion: Don't play one handed. It's NEVER going to get you insanely good scores and is frankly a waste of time if you're trying to improve your playing ability.


    Also: Sure good one handers do deserve a lot of respect for doing well with something that limits their capabilities a ton but there's no way a good one hander could do better than a good spread player and that's just the bottom line.

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    • who_cares973
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2006
      • 15407

      #3
      Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

      Originally posted by Matrixdude
      Conclusion: Don't play one handed. It's NEVER going to get you insanely good scores and is frankly a waste of time if you're trying to improve your playing ability.
      uh


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      if that doesnt convince you then



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      learn to have dedication



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      btw praising someone just because of their playing style is stupid. you wouldnt praise someone in a wheel chair because they want to be in a wheel chair would you? no
      praise someone for their skills
      Last edited by nois-or-e; 01-23-2011, 11:20 PM. Reason: Quad post lol

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      • AlexDest
        good hot
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2007
        • 5309

        #4
        Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

        One handed players should deserve some respect even if they're bad, they'll improve if they decide not to switch to spread or index.

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        • alloyus
          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2006
          • 3269

          #5
          Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

          Agreed, wish I stuck with it (played for a little over a year), think it's really cool what some people can do.

          ^FFP_D0pey btw

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          • AlexDest
            good hot
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2007
            • 5309

            #6
            Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

            Originally posted by Matrixdude
            Conclusion: Don't play one handed. It's NEVER going to get you insanely good scores and is frankly a waste of time if you're trying to improve your playing ability.


            Also: Sure good one handers do deserve a lot of respect for doing well with something that limits their capabilities a ton but there's no way a good one hander could do better than a good spread player and that's just the bottom line.
            how dumb are you

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            • OneHandNow
              Banned
              • Sep 2006
              • 5305

              #7
              Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

              lolol

              "how can you even listen to that kind of music"

              "it's the berzerker, it's the death metal.. blah blah"

              haha i laughed at the end of the disregard video.

              but yeah! look at my name. onehandnow i used to play one handed for 2-3 years until i realized those jumpstreams weren't possible

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              • irishknight
                FFR Veteran
                • May 2006
                • 969

                #8
                Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                Originally posted by OneHandNow
                but yeah! look at my name. onehandnow i used to play one handed for 2-3 years until i realized those jumpstreams weren't possible
                yep.

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                • Sweagen
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 333

                  #9
                  Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                  Originally posted by who_cares973
                  btw praising someone just because of their playing style is stupid. you wouldnt praise someone in a wheel chair because they want to be in a wheel chair would you? no
                  praise someone for their skills
                  Actually I would, though that's probably just me...

                  I'd imagine that the dedication it would have to take to work through life with such a disability to be highly respectable.

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                  • Matrixdude
                    And She Screams My Name
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1351

                    #10
                    Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                    @wc You seem to have missed my point. Yes binary is a very very good one handed player, but what I was trying to get at is that a spread player could much more ably AAA those songs. For one handed I'm definitely very impressed with what those videos showed; however, they also prove my point as you can clearly witness the limitations that one hand can have. He didn't even come close to FCing ER or Disregard whereas a spread player has much more potential to do so.

                    So sorry if you think I sounded dumb when I said spread players don't have the limitations that one handed players face.

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                    • who_cares973
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 15407

                      #11
                      Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                      Originally posted by Matrixdude
                      He didn't even come close to FCing ER or Disregard
                      you dont seem to realize how good those scores are or how hard those files are. his scores on those files are above what more than half the spread players are capable of

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                      • ghost-
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 787

                        #12
                        Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                        meh I love playing one handed and will never, I mean never switch to anything else. I have gotten some pretty sick scores but none that would really aw anybody, because frankly, people are always looking for great scores in terms of spread, not any other style. I'm not worried about it though, as long as a few of my friends can recognize when I do something great, i'm happy.

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                        • foxfire667
                          The FFRchiver
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 2169

                          #13
                          Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                          Originally posted by who_cares973
                          you dont seem to realize how good those scores are or how hard those files are. his scores on those files are above what more than half the spread players are capable of
                          I think that they are refering to potential in regards to the setup, not about how good everyone in general is at the game. There are people that suck with all styles, there is no exception to this, what matters here is honestly the best scores that have been achieved with a particular style. I am going to say that, by far, that person is the BEST one handed player I have ever seen. With this said, I have seen far more intensive scores completed with spread, and better scores posted on songs such as MSWGO with spread.

                          On any genuinely hard song, pretty much at any given time, the best spread person will always top the best one handed person's ability to play the song. This is not because the one handed person has any less devotion or practice (if anything more devotion and possibly more years of playing) it is that the style itself limits the person from playing well enough to surpass the spread player.

                          If one handed was just as capable of a style as spread, then there would probably be a much more distributed community of players and seeing great people play one handed would be FAR more common. If you can find any one handed player that is better than some of the best spread Stepmania/FFR/kbo/etc players...I would personally love to meet them. Otherwise, Matrixdude's argument is quite valid.

                          I don't agree that learning one handed is a "waste of time", as improvement with one handed styles is definately possible, but as far as potential goes spread has generally shown itself to top one handed styles.
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                          • LJRoX
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 2762

                            #14
                            Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                            Originally posted by who_cares973
                            uh
                            the person playing piano in the background got an AAAA on their piece lol.

                            and i've played onehanded for like.. 5 years until i switched to spread.

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                            • x_lambourghini_x
                              Nope. Chuck Testa.
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 288

                              #15
                              Re: One Handers Are Gods in the FFR World?

                              Originally posted by Matrixdude
                              Played with one hand for three months

                              Switched to index

                              Improved intensely

                              Played index for a year

                              Switched to spread

                              Improved intensely

                              Conclusion: Don't play one handed. It's NEVER going to get you insanely good scores and is frankly a waste of time if you're trying to improve your playing ability.


                              Also: Sure good one handers do deserve a lot of respect for doing well with something that limits their capabilities a ton but there's no way a good one hander could do better than a good spread player and that's just the bottom line.
                              Yeah, I heard about that and I actually tried spread and got too impatient so I play one-handed and I've gotten lots of FCs and AAAs but skill tokens are more annoying to get.
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