300 SDG?

[MrRubix]

Re: 300 SDG?

It's not all that probable because your levelranks indicate that you have a rough time even consistently SDGing level 8 files. Level 9's and 10's are a fair bit harder than 8's.

Especially for something like 300, you need a fair bit of control over your keystrokes because you not only have to time long minijacks well, but you need to be fast and accurate enough to handle the splitjumps at the end. I see this as being difficult for you to do unless you can master 8's and 9's first. But going straight for 300 right off the bat is not going to do you much good, imo.

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: 300 SDG?

It's not all that probable because your levelranks indicate that you have a rough time even consistently SDGing level 8 files. Level 9's and 10's are a fair bit harder than 8's.

Especially for something like 300, you need a fair bit of control over your keystrokes because you not only have to time long minijacks well, but you need to be fast and accurate enough to handle the splitjumps at the end. I see this as being difficult for you to do unless you can master 8's and 9's first. But going straight for 300 right off the bat is not going to do you much good, imo.

So what do you suggest since you AAA'd DP? Like what songs do you think might help me prepare for this long journey to the SDG'ing world of 300? Any tips? Hints?

[MrRubix]

Re: 300 SDG?

So what do you suggest since you AAA'd DP? Like what songs do you think might help me prepare for this long journey to the SDG'ing world of 300? Any tips? Hints?

My method of practice is different from most (I like to break files up and master pieces in sections with their respective braindead transitions in order to maximize muscle memory efficiency). I am not really a fan of "Whore the song in its entirety over and over again until you start to get it right." It's a lot like learning piano. You practice the parts you need.

But isolation, in my opinion, is more effective for people who already have a fair grasp of the game. It wouldn't make sense to tell a piano student to practice a particular section when they can't even handle certain fundamentals yet. A certain level of base skill is required.

In this case, since 300 requires the ability to jack and do splitjumps (all at high speeds), I'd look at files of difficulty 8/9 that train these skills the most profoundly. Don't even touch 7's anymore. Work until you can AAA 8's and SDG 9's. From there, you'll have a better shot of practicing 300 until you SDG it.

[iironiic]

Re: 300 SDG?

So what do you suggest since you AAA'd DP? Like what songs do you think might help me prepare for this long journey to the SDG'ing world of 300? Any tips? Hints?

Tips: To me, 8's and 9's help you create a better foundation of precisely hitting 4ths, 8ths and 16ths. Also, it introduces some 12ths, 24ths, and occasionally 32nds, so it stresses transitioning between 16ths to 24ths and so on. Some 9's also stresses the transition of increasing bpm, which 300 has. So begin focusing on 8's and 9's and make sure you are nailing those 16ths, 8ths and 4ths. Also, work on transition.

Then once you master that, work on consistently AAAing 10's which stresses the consistency of streams, and introduces some awkward patterns. It also creates a foundation of the transitioning between 16ths to 24ths and etc. So nail that as well.

After succeeding in that, you should be able to SDG 300.

Thanks for the advice bro. I'll defiantly try doing that. Now what about Crowdpleaser? I have 8 misses on that.

EDIT: Don't worry about CP yet... you're not ready for it. (Neither am I)

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: 300 SDG?

My method of practice is different from most (I like to break files up and master pieces in sections with their respective braindead transitions in order to maximize muscle memory efficiency). I am not really a fan of "Whore the song in its entirety over and over again until you start to get it right." It's a lot like learning piano. You practice the parts you need.

But isolation, in my opinion, is more effective for people who already have a fair grasp of the game. It wouldn't make sense to tell a piano student to practice a particular section when they can't even handle certain fundamentals yet. A certain level of base skill is required.

In this case, since 300 requires the ability to jack and do splitjumps (all at high speeds), I'd look at files of difficulty 8/9 that train these skills the most profoundly. Don't even touch 7's anymore. Work until you can AAA 8's and SDG 9's. From there, you'll have a better shot of practicing 300 until you SDG it.

Thanks for the advice bro. I'll defiantly try doing that. Now what about Crowdpleaser? I have 8 misses on that.

Tips: To me, 8's and 9's help you create a better foundation of precisely hitting 4ths, 8ths and 16ths. Also, it introduces some 12ths, 24ths, and occasionally 32nds, so it stresses transitioning between 16ths to 24ths and so on. Some 9's also stresses the transition of increasing bpm, which 300 has. So begin focusing on 8's and 9's and make sure you are nailing those 16ths, 8ths and 4ths. Also, work on transition.

Then once you master that, work on consistently AAAing 10's which stresses the consistency of streams, and introduces some awkward patterns. It also creates a foundation of the transitioning between 16ths to 24ths and etc. So nail that as well.

After succeeding in that, you should be able to SDG 300.

Thanks Wilson <3

[MrRubix]

Re: 300 SDG?

Thanks for the advice bro. I'll defiantly try doing that. Now what about Crowdpleaser? I have 8 misses on that.

What's your goal for CP? If you're looking to FC it, you need to learn to vibrate.

If you're trying to FC+PA it, you'll need to use overlay setup.

In this case I think isolating the megatrill provides a huge benefit.

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: 300 SDG?

What's your goal for CP? If you're looking to FC it, you need to learn to vibrate.

If you're trying to FC+PA it, you'll need to use overlay setup.

In this case I think isolating the megatrill provides a huge benefit.

FC and a little PA but more in the FC area. I have no idea what the overlay setup is.

[MrRubix]

Re: 300 SDG?

FC and a little PA but more in the FC area. I have no idea what the overlay setup is.

Most of the file is easy PA fodder. The two bursts are hard for most people to read but you can just screenshot those sections and study them in greater detail so you know what's going on (then you can figure out how you want to go about hitting it). The second burst, for example, is just a really fast staircase.

The trill itself needs overlay setup if you want to FC it a bit more easily. You'll need a USB keyboard with somewhat flat keys. The idea is to put four fingers on the left/right keys such that you can sort of "roll" with all four fingers in order to simulate a really fast trill. It takes some practice to get used to (namely because you'll have a tendency to want to go faster than you actually need to -- going too fast results in holding the keys down too much).

The problem with vibration is that it's messy. It's oftentimes not consistent due to the physical pain/effort that goes into it. Overlay setup gives you the speed advantage of two-finger vibration but without the pain and with a higher level of consistency and ease of execution. Not all keyboards are fit for overlay setup, so you'll need to experiment. I went through ten keyboards before I found a decent one.

You CAN vibrate-FC the trill, but it's very hard and you'll get ****ty PA every time.

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: 300 SDG?

Most of the file is easy PA fodder. The two bursts are hard for most people to read but you can just screenshot those sections and study them in greater detail so you know what's going on (then you can figure out how you want to go about hitting it). The second burst, for example, is just a really fast staircase.

The trill itself needs overlay setup if you want to FC it a bit more easily. You'll need a USB keyboard with somewhat flat keys. The idea is to put four fingers on the left/right keys such that you can sort of "roll" with all four fingers in order to simulate a really fast trill. It takes some practice to get used to (namely because you'll have a tendency to want to go faster than you actually need to -- going too fast results in holding the keys down too much).

The problem with vibration is that it's messy. It's oftentimes not consistent due to the physical pain/effort that goes into it. Overlay setup gives you the speed advantage of two-finger vibration but without the pain and with a higher level of consistency and ease of execution. Not all keyboards are fit for overlay setup, so you'll need to experiment. I went through ten keyboards before I found a decent one.

You CAN vibrate-FC the trill, but it's very hard and you'll get ****ty PA every time.

Well right now I have a hp keyboard which is somewhat flat. I manage to get like 30 something goods on it at time but the left and right trill or burst or w.e. it is screws me up because I hit it but my hands don't recover quick enough so it causes me to get a **** load of misses. And those little bursts or w.e. before the megatrill is just retarded...

[MrRubix]

Re: 300 SDG?

Well right now I have a hp keyboard which is somewhat flat. I manage to get like 30 something goods on it at time but the left and right trill or burst or w.e. it is screws me up because I hit it but my hands don't recover quick enough so it causes me to get a **** load of misses. And those little bursts or w.e. before the megatrill is just retarded...

CP is a little advanced for now -- I'd focus on other files first.

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: 300 SDG?

CP is a little advanced for now -- I'd focus on other files first.

Good idea. Now about them 8/9 files. Name some 8s and 9s songs you think I can AAA/SDG.

[OneHandNow]

Re: 300 SDG?

If you want to be able to do FMO songs (SDG, AAA), I suggest whoring some FGO songs, or some stepmania files to gain speed & reading ability.

[i love you]

Re: 300 SDG?

The only thing stopping me from a CP AAA is that first burst x.x

[iironiic]

Re: 300 SDG?

CP is a little advanced for now -- I'd focus on other files first.

Lol like I said, but you chose to ignore me I see how it is...

If you want to be able to do FMO songs (SDG, AAA), I suggest whoring some FGO songs, or some stepmania files to gain speed & reading ability.

This is a good way to get speed and reading ability... not necessarily accuracy and consistency though. My scores are somewhat inconsistent because I usually whore FGOs and FMOs every time I play. They also work as good warm up songs too.

[xBBx Takedown]

Re: 300 SDG?

Lol like I said, but you chose to ignore me I see how it is...




This is a good way to get speed and reading ability... not necessarily accuracy and consistency though. My scores are somewhat inconsistent because I usually whore FGOs and FMOs every time I play. They also work as good warm up songs too.

Well, Wilson, I don't have SM so I'm pretty out of luck with the SM but the FGO songs I can def. work with.