Tier point requirement comments

[DossarLX ODI]

I'd like some feedback from others about the current tier point requirements

#8. Blue Rose: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (5,613,825)
(8)- Single Digit Good (5,611,625)
(7)- 25 or fewer (5,607,225)
(6)- 60 or fewer (5,597,600)
(5)- Full Combo (5,501,820)
The difference between each point IMO is too big. Single digit good to 1 or fewer is pretty large, to have something like this it should probably be tightened a bit.

#12. Crowdpleaser: (10)
(10)- 2 or fewer (1,915,250)
(9)- 7 or fewer (1,913,875)
(8)- 15 or fewer (1,911,675)
(7)- 30 or fewer (1,907,550)
(6)- 50 or fewer (1,902,050)
(5)- Full Combo (1,877,485)
I can't really comment on this since I always try to vibrate it. Trying to get 7 or fewer the real way is almost impossible. I have trouble just combo'ing this song. A full combo should be 7 tier points IMO.

#13. Death Piano: (10) (96%)
(10)- 180 or fewer (3,752,650)
(9)- 300 or fewer (3,719,650)
(8)- Full Combo (3,650,065)
300 or fewer for a 9/9 even on this song is way too lenient. Even on mashing runs I can easily get 200 or fewer. The 10/10 is also lenient; my current score is 100 or fewer which is pratically half of the requirement. Requesting a tighter requirement, such as 200 or fewer for 9/9 and 100 or fewer for 10/10.

#14. Eclipse (Solar): (10) (97%)
(10)- 3 or fewer (2,238,925)
(9)- 15 or fewer (2,235,625)
(8)- 40 or fewer (2,228,750)
(7)- 70 or fewer (2,220,500)
(6)- 150 or fewer (2,198,500)
(5)- Full Combo (2,172,560)
15 or fewer is very hard to obtain on this song but many players have accomplished it so I guess it shouldn't be bumped down.

#15. Electro Rush X8 v2: (9) (97%)
(9)- 1 or fewer (1,882,975)
(8)- 5 or fewer (1,881,875)
(7)- 15 or fewer (1,879,125)
(6)- 40 or fewer (1,872,250)
(5)- Full Combo (1,826,755)
Has anyone ever noticed that there are NO 9/9's with 2 or fewer? They're either blackflag or AAA

#24. Grand Gallop Chromatique: (10) (97%)
(10)- AAA (3,659,550)
(9)- 3 or fewer (3,658,725)
(8)- Single Digit Good (3,657,075)
(7)- 25 or fewer (3,652,675)
(6)- 80 or fewer (3,637,550)
(5)- Full Combo (3,549,765)
(4)- 3,000,000 or higher
(3)- 2,500,000 or higher
(2)- 2,200,000 or higher
(1)- 1,900,000 or higher
3 or fewer is a bit harsh for 9/9. Even Rubix said so. idk it should probably be 4 or fewer

#28. Ketsarku Mozgalom: (9)
(9)- AAA (2,534,250)
(8)- 4 or fewer (2,533,150)
(7)- Single Digit Good (2,531,775)
(6)- 20 or fewer (2,528,750)
(5)- 50 or fewer (2,520,500)
(4)- Full Combo (2,483,565)
An AAA on this song is extremely hard. I don't know how 7 have accomplished it. Harder than Pants IMO

#35. Molto Vivace: (10) (97%)
(10)- AAA (1,824,350)
(9)- 3 or fewer (1,823,525)
(8)- Single Digit Good (1,821,875)
(7)- 20 or fewer (1,818,850)
(6)- 50 or fewer (1,810,600)
(5)- 100 or fewer (1,796,850)
(4)- Full Combo (1,769,620)
This is probably the most reasonable requirement.

#38. One Minute Waltz: (10) (97%)
(10)- 1 or fewer (1,638,075)
(9)- 5 or fewer (1,636,975)
(8)- 12 or fewer (1,635,050)
(7)- 30 or fewer (1,630,100)
(6)- 70 or fewer (1,619,100)
(5)- Full Combo (1,589,200)
The 10/10 should be an AAA.

#40. Pants: (9)
(9)- AAA (4,687,200)
(8)- 4 or fewer (4,686,100)
(7)- 15 or fewer (4,683,075)
(6)- 35 or fewer (4,677,575)
(5)- Full Combo (4,593,460)
Now that this song officially has 10 people with the AAA requirement, it should probably be turned into an 8/8 requirement song, 2 or fewer. That's just my opinion; AAA is pretty hard but not too crazy.

#44. Revolutionary Etude: (10) (97%)
(10)- 5 or fewer (2,478,625)
(9)- 20 or fewer (2,474,500)
(8)- 60 or fewer (2,463,500)
(7)- 150 or fewer (2,438,750)
(6)- Full Combo (2,405,600)
This song is probably the most least achieved 8/8 in the game (only 6 players have gotten the 8/8 IIRC). The 8/8 should probably be upped to 80 or fewer; 90 difference is way too large a gap.

#61. Holy Orders: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (4,274,625)
(8)- Single Digit Good (4,272,425)
(7)- 25 or fewer (4,268,025)
(6)- 60 or fewer (4,258,400)
(5)- Full Combo (4,192,400)
Haven't played this song.

#62. Hardkore Atomic: (10)
(10)- AAA (1,602,700)
(9)- 3 or fewer (1,601,875)
(8)- 15 or fewer (1,598,575)
(7)- 30 or fewer (1,594,450)
(6)- 60 or fewer (1,586,200)
(5)- Full Combo (1,520,200)
I think this is reasonable.

#63. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ: (9)
(9)- 3 or fewer (5,036,950)
(8)- 12 or fewer (5,034,200)
(7)- 30 or fewer (5,029,250)
(6)- 70 or fewer (5,018,250)
(5)- Full Combo (4,955,000)
3 or fewer is harsh - I'd have to say something like 4 or fewer for this song.

#64. Integraation: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (2,991,225)
(8)- Single Digit Good (2,989,025)
(7)- 25 or fewer (2,984,625)
(6)- 60 or fewer (2,975,000)
(5)- Full Combo (2,909,000)
HAHAHAHAHAHA there is no such thing as "1 or fewer" on this song; everyone that's gotten the 9/9 is an AAA and the others are 2 or more goods. 9/9 should be bumped up to 2 or 3 or fewer.

#65. Necropotence: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (2,626,975)
(8)- Single digit Good (2,624,775)
(7)- 25 or fewer (2,620,375)
(6)- 60 or fewer (2,610,750)
(5)- Full Combo (2,544,750)
1 or fewer is pretty harsh for this too. I'd say 2 or fewer for the 9/9.

#68. Little God Channel: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (4,361,700)
(8)- Single Digit Good (4,359,225)
(7)- 25 or fewer (4,354,825)
(6)- 60 or fewer (4,345,200)
(5)- Full combo (4,279,200)
The gap between a Single Digit good and 1 or fewer on this song is ridiculous. Rubix said the 9/9 for this should be 2 or fewer.

#69. Almost There: (10)
(10)- 5 or fewer (2,978,275)
(9)- 20 or fewer (2,973,600)
(8)- 40 or fewer (2,968,100)
(7)- 80 or fewer (2,957,100)
(6)- Full Combo (2,896,600)
Wow, this is way too lenient. The 9/9 should be 12 or fewer and 10/10 3 or fewer.

#75. Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern: (10)
(10)- 3 or fewer (2,204,825)
(9)- Single Digit Good (2,203,175)
(8)- 25 or under (2,198,775)
(7)- 40 or under (2,194,650)
(6)- 80 or fewer (2,183,650)
(5)- Full Combo (2,123,150)

#85. I Hate The 80s: (9)
(9)- 3 or fewer (1,561,575)
(8)- Single Dight Good (1,559,925)
(7)- 25 or fewer (1,555,525)
(6)- 60 or fewer (1,545,900)
(5)- Full Combo (1,479,900)

#88. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: (10)
(10)- 200 or fewer (2,425,000)
(9)- 350 or fewer (2,383,750)
(8)- 600 or fewer (2,315,000)
(7)- Full Combo (2,200,000)
This is a joke. Seriously.

#89. Across Rooftops: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (3,493,425)
(8)- Single Dight Good (3,491,225)
(7)- 25 or fewer (3,486,825)
(6)- 60 or fewer (3,477,200)
(5)- Full Combo (3,411,200)

#99. Schmollbluk: (10)
(10)- 1 or fewer (2,549,475)
(9)- Single digit Good (2,547,275)
(8)- 25 or fewer (2,542,875)
(7)- 50 or fewer (2,536,000)
(6)- 100 or fewer (2,522,250)
(5)- Full Combo (2,412,250)

#101. Kidney Stone: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (2,509,175)
(8)- Single Digit Good (2,506,975)
(7)- 40 or fewer (2,498,450)
(6)- 100 or fewer (2,481,950)
(5)- Full Combo (2,371,950)

#105. La Campanella: (10)
(10)- 5 or fewer (4,475,025)
(9)- 15 or fewer (4,472,275)
(8)- 50 or fewer (4,462,650)
(7)- 100 or fewer (4,448,900)
(6)- Full Combo (4,352,650)

#117. ==Planet KARMA==: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (4,765,975)
(8)- 12 or fewer (4,762,950)
(7)- 35 or fewer (4,756,625)
(6)- 80 or fewer (4,744,250)
(5)- Full Combo (4,683,750)

#120. J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2: (10)
(10)- 1 or fewer (2,560,325)
(9)- Single Digit Good (2,558,125)
(8)- 25 or fewer (2,553,725)
(7)- 60 or fewer (2,544,100)
(6)- 120 or fewer (2,527,600)
(5)- Full Combo (2,464,350)

At the moment I have class so I can't comment on everything right now

[NekoGon]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

#13. Death Piano: (10) (96%)
(10)- 180 or fewer (3,752,650)
(9)- 300 or fewer (3,719,650)
(8)- Full Combo (3,650,065)
300 or fewer for a 9/9 even on this song is way too lenient. Even on mashing runs I can easily get 200 or fewer. The 10/10 is also lenient; my current score is 100 or fewer which is pratically half of the requirement. Requesting a tighter requirement, such as 200 or fewer for 9/9 and 100 or fewer for 10/10.

#88. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: (10)
(10)- 200 or fewer (2,425,000)
(9)- 350 or fewer (2,383,750)
(8)- 600 or fewer (2,315,000)
(7)- Full Combo (2,200,000)
This is a joke. Seriously.

lol

[wargasm1]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

I would remove dp and rato from TP but thats just me. And put back vertex BETA.

[i love you]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

The day when me and Jimerax were discussing about some of these requirements like Death Piano or RATO, we wasn't fully sure where to set the requirements at since at the time, there was a huge gap in scores for both of those. We determined the requirements for those two songs by looking at the Top 3 scores at the time and making up a reasonable requirement for those. I will talk to Jimerax about those two.

As for the rest, I think it all should stay as it is except for Integraation's (9/9) requirement or maybe Revolutionary Etude's (8/8) and probably GGC's (9/9). Little God Channel might also need to be slightly changed due to length and maybe Blue Rose. I'll take more of a glance at it once I come back from class.

[TC_goelo]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Biased blabbing

Most of the comments you made are based on your personal experience.
Not everybody is a 32nd trilling machine that can AAA or BF Almost there, infact only you, Rubix and EAG can.
Same for Death Piano and RATO, your asking for a Tier Point list made for you, and not for the ¨average good¨ player.

[tj28]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Hey guys, let's make a thread and complain about 1 or 2 goods!

But yeah, DP/RATO need to be much more tight.

Most of the comments you made are based on your personal experience.
Not everybody is a 32nd trilling machine that can AAA or BF Almost there, infact only you, Rubix and EAG can.
Same for Death Piano and RATO, your asking for a Tier Point list made for you, and not for the ¨average good¨ player.

Well, if you can FC 13s you pretty much automatically get "300 or fewer" on them, so it's a stupid requirement.
You don't even need to be good to get in the tier list; I don't have Oni and I could get T4.

[OneHandNow]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Hey guys, let's make a thread and complain about 1 or 2 goods!

But yeah, DP/RATO need to be much more tight.



Well, if you can FC 13s you pretty much automatically get "300 or fewer" on them, so it's a stupid requirement.
You don't even need to be good to get in the tier list; I don't have Oni and I could get T4.

not with people mashing even the easy sections

[Vanilla Mnm]

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I don't get the 10/10 Tier Points. Do those Tier Points show up or are those just made up or something? I thought it just went to 9/9..?

[Kiyoshi_Okazaki-San]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

I don't get the 10/10 Tier Points. Do those Tier Points show up or are those just made up or something? I thought it just went to 9/9..?

Each song has different requirements, some only have 6.

[Vanilla Mnm]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Each song has different requirements, some only have 6.

I understand what Tier Points are, I just thought there weren't any 10/10 ones, I thought the most was 9/9.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

10/10 requirements haven't been implemented into the game yet.

Judging from the other posts in this thread I guess Death Piano and RATO could use some changing lol

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Ketsarku's requirement is a bit harsh but not impossible. 1 or fewer is suffice for a 9/9, but no more than that.

Long songs should have a bit of a leniency when it's something like Blue Rose/Red Wings Over Baron where there is a particularly difficult section. Maybe 3 or fewer for BR?

#65. Necropotence: (9)
(9)- 1 or fewer (2,626,975)
(8)- Single digit Good (2,624,775)
(7)- 25 or fewer (2,620,375)
(6)- 60 or fewer (2,610,750)
(5)- Full Combo (2,544,750)
1 or fewer is pretty harsh for this too. I'd say 2 or fewer for the 9/9.

Yes.

(10)- 5 or fewer (2,978,275)
(9)- 20 or fewer (2,973,600)
(8)- 40 or fewer (2,968,100)
(7)- 80 or fewer (2,957,100)
(6)- Full Combo (2,896,600)
Wow, this is way too lenient. The 9/9 should be 12 or fewer and 10/10 3 or fewer.

Agreed.

#88. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: (10)
(10)- 200 or fewer (2,425,000)
(9)- 350 or fewer (2,383,750)
(8)- 600 or fewer (2,315,000)
(7)- Full Combo (2,200,000)
This is a joke. Seriously.

I mashed the 8/9 on this.

Vertex Beta should stay off the list, by the way.

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

:K_K:

[bballa48]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all 6/X requirements supposed to be of relatively equivalent difficulty?

If so, are we saying that FCing Revolutionary Etude is as easy as AAAing Polka?

I feel like FCing a song like that should be 7 at least, or AAAing Polka should be 5. Something doesn't seem right there.

[leonid]

Re: Tier point requirement comments

Death Piano 9/9 is harsh enough