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  • KaBlammo
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 47

    #16
    Re: Help me improve?

    Originally posted by Nightfirecat
    Yeah, just play all the FGO / hard FMO songs, then you'll eventually start getting it. It makes it harder to transition backwards, but it's not too bad.
    What do you mean by transition backwards? Go back and play easier songs?

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    • sticklydude
      r.i.p. tiny hippo
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2007
      • 2165

      #17
      Re: Help me improve?

      Originally posted by KaBlammo
      What do you mean by transition backwards? Go back and play easier songs?
      yessh

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      • Nightfirecat
        ...back from the dead.
        • Nov 2006
        • 3213

        #18
        Re: Help me improve?

        To PA easier songs, when they're really slow, but yes.
        Generally, you can PA 10s and 9s pretty easily once you start whoring FMOs and FGOs.


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        • sticklydude
          r.i.p. tiny hippo
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2007
          • 2165

          #19
          Re: Help me improve?

          Also, do you use a speed mod?

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          • Nightfirecat
            ...back from the dead.
            • Nov 2006
            • 3213

            #20
            Re: Help me improve?

            Originally posted by sticklydude
            Also, do you use a speed mod?
            Generally it actually doesn't make a difference - unless you're playing a song with tons of jacks... Ex: Darkshark played with 1x lol.


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            • KaBlammo
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2007
              • 47

              #21
              Re: Help me improve?

              Originally posted by sticklydude
              Also, do you use a speed mod?
              1.25 on 10 and below
              1.5 on anything higher
              C400 on stepmania

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              • HonMelCal-spread-
                FFR Veteran
                • Mar 2009
                • 59

                #22
                Re: Help me improve?

                I'll let you know as soon as I get the hang of jumpstream, lol.
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                • Nightfirecat
                  ...back from the dead.
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 3213

                  #23
                  Re: Help me improve?

                  I'd say, use one speedmod for all songs. I'd suggest higher usually is better (1.5 in this case), because it helps to read individual notes in extremely fast songs. Also, this will help your consistency overall.


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                  • Kibblre
                    Caelondia Represent
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1984

                    #24
                    Re: Help me improve?

                    I'd suggest doing slower songs with jump streams in them and try to PA them. Once you're good with the slower songs, move to faster/harder songs. That's what I did when I started getting serious at FFR and I just keep improving.

                    Also, if you're having a hard trouble reading the arrows, either increase your speedmod or take a screenshot of a tricky spot so you can analyze it.

                    Don't know if you mentioned it or not, but if you don't try playing spread. It makes jump streams MUCH easier. And for the record, I use 1.75 and I'm buying a subby so I can go between that and 2.0 (I don't remember the exact value, I think it's 1.85).
                    Last edited by Kibblre; 07-26-2009, 06:29 PM.
                    Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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                    • KaBlammo
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 47

                      #25
                      Re: Help me improve?

                      Originally posted by Kibblre
                      I'd suggest doing slower songs with jump streams in them and try to PA them. Once you're good with the slower songs, move to faster/harder songs. That's what I did when I started getting serious at FFR and I just keep improving.

                      Also, if you're having a hard trouble reading the arrows, either increase your speedmod or take a screenshot of a tricky spot so you can analyze it.

                      Don't know if you mentioned it or not, but if you don't try playing spread. It makes jump streams MUCH easier. And for the record, I use 1.75 and I'm buying a subby so I can go between that and 2.0 (I don't remember the exact value, I think it's 1.85).
                      Yeah I play spread.
                      D= Left
                      F= Down
                      J= Up
                      K= Right

                      At least I think that counts as spread. I am not really sure of any slow jumpstream songs, all FMOs seem to be super fast.

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                      • rushyrulz
                        Digital Dancing!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 12985

                        #26
                        Re: Help me improve?

                        Work on playing 1.5x on all songs instead of just easy ones. From there, work your way up to 1.75x which is a good speed for FMO/FGO pwnage.


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                        • HonMelCal-spread-
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 59

                          #27
                          Re: Help me improve?

                          Yeah, honestly you've just got to keep practicing. The transition from VC songs to FMO's are pretty big and even bigger for FMO to FGO (at least compared to other difficulties in the game). I'd give it months of serious training before you begin to notice a skill boost.
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                          • KaBlammo
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 47

                            #28
                            Re: Help me improve?

                            Originally posted by HonMelCal-spread-
                            Yeah, honestly you've just got to keep practicing. The transition from VC songs to FMO's are pretty big and even bigger for FMO to FGO (at least compared to other difficulties in the game). I'd give it months of serious training before you begin to notice a skill boost.
                            Months? .__.
                            That's a little discouraging.

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                            • ice_lazer3
                              ICE ICE BABY
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 173

                              #29
                              Re: Help me improve?

                              Originally posted by KaBlammo
                              Months? .__.
                              That's a little discouraging.
                              Well, it kinda depends on how often you play FFR. If you play often, you should notice some improvements about every week or so.

                              A tip on improving is to play songs that are a bit difficult for you (not sure exactly what difficulty that is for you, maybe 9s, 10s, and 11s) and keep playing different songs so you'll experience a variety of patterns. You can also play easier songs just for fun so you can get the FC or maybe AAA. If you want to improve on a certain pattern (e.g. jumpstream), play jumpstreamy songs, but don't play the same one over and over again or you might get mind blocks.

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                              • KaBlammo
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 47

                                #30
                                Re: Help me improve?

                                Originally posted by ice_lazer3
                                A tip on improving is to play songs that are a bit difficult for you (not sure exactly what difficulty that is for you, maybe 9s, 10s, and 11s) and keep playing different songs so you'll experience a variety of patterns. You can also play easier songs just for fun so you can get the FC or maybe AAA. If you want to improve on a certain pattern (e.g. jumpstream), play jumpstreamy songs, but don't play the same one over and over again or you might get mind blocks.
                                I still don't really get what the whole mind block thing is but everyone is saying it, please explain.

                                I've been playing a lot of StepMania songs today from Midare Megapack 2, but I always seem to get to parts where I either button mash or just stop playing and let it fail. I can't keep up with the arrows well enough at all. At this rate I don't feel like I'll be improving anytime soon. xP

                                Edit: 10s and 9s are easy for me but no where near AAAing any of them. Best I can do is a lucky FC. 11s and 12s hit hard.
                                Last edited by KaBlammo; 07-27-2009, 01:08 AM.

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