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  • Afrobean
    Admiral in the Red Army
    • Dec 2003
    • 13262

    #16
    Re: Wikipedia!

    Originally posted by l u l l a b y
    It's a little more complicated than that, that's just the supposed reason.

    The real thing is that a certain admin over there is permabanned here and he is butthurt, so he is strictly enforcing rules that shouldn't be and bending others to his whim.

    Originally posted by Cyanite
    Wikipedia requires that most of the article is built on 3rd party sources rather than directly from what the article is about. The FFR article depended mostly on information directly from FFR, which made it appear non-notable.
    Actually, the article was written almost entirely by Moogy in the first place. Any information in it was immediately apparent. For example, to say "FFR is a flash-based rhythm game". Duh. There are some things which were questionable for an encyclopedic article, and those things easily were justified to remove, but an ENTIRE DELETE of the thing wasn't morally justified. They wanted outside sources proving notability and when they were put forward, the thing was deleted anyway due to lack of notability. ****ing ****s.

    Originally posted by Goldenwind
    FFR will forever be known as "DDR on keyboard", even to the most basic of novices. I personally don't believe it's big enough to deserve its own page, in the grand scheme of things.
    If things like FFR do not deserve articles, then other things such as Stepmania do not either. Aside from derivative works (i.e., ITG), I'd say that FFR is probably more notable than Stepmania. At the very least I can say that more people in the general population will have an idea what FFR is than what SM is.

    But that said, Wikipedia is a warground between those who believe information should be inclusive and others who believe it should be exclusive. No matter how valid a piece of information is, there will always be some douchebag out there arguing that the information doesn't deserve to be recorded. It may be clear that I'm the type who thinks information should be inclusive, but I think that's just a load of ****.

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    • devonin
      Very Grave Indeed
      Event Staff
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2004
      • 10120

      #17
      Re: Wikipedia!

      I think the "outside source" aspect of the notability problem is that they want us to be linking to -not FFR- as where we are sourcing some/most of our info from.

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      • Afrobean
        Admiral in the Red Army
        • Dec 2003
        • 13262

        #18
        Re: Wikipedia!

        Originally posted by devonin
        I think the "outside source" aspect of the notability problem is that they want us to be linking to -not FFR- as where we are sourcing some/most of our info from.
        If that were the case, the article would require REVISION to address the problems, not get wholly deleted even as the people were trying to address and discuss the supposed problem.

        Devonin, if you don't buy the butthurt admin story, talk to Chardish or LD. They might not use the word "butthurt" to describe him, but they'll tell you the very same thing: it's deleted more because of an admin with an axe to grind than due to lack of notability.

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        • mhss1992
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 788

          #19
          Re: Wikipedia!

          This notability thing is retarded. It exists, people actually spend hours trying to achieve something in it, I think that should be enough to make an article about it.
          Also, I don't think it should be necessary to use information from 3rd party sources, since 3rd party sources also get information directly from the site somehow... Why can't wikipedia become the "first" 3rd party source?
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          • Ice wolf
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2007
            • 852

            #20
            Re: Wikipedia!

            Let's get together a bunch of people who have been at FFR forever to write a bunch of history and facts about FFR and put it on some notable site so we can have a Wikipedia article.
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            • Tasselfoot
              Retired BOSS
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2003
              • 25185

              #21
              Re: Wikipedia!

              At this point, it doesn't really matter. It's been gone for years now.
              RIP

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              • Izzy
                Snek
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2003
                • 9195

                #22
                Re: Wikipedia!

                Isn't ffr a registered business? Also how in the hell is text text revolution more notable then ffr. What the hell is text text revolution anyway.

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                • Commandersa1
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2344

                  #23
                  Re: Wikipedia!

                  Originally posted by Izzy
                  Isn't ffr a registered business? Also how in the hell is text text revolution more notable then ffr. What the hell is text text revolution anyway.


                  ?

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                  • Ephraim Desole
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 308

                    #24
                    Re: Wikipedia!

                    Originally posted by TTR News
                    7-14-2003

                    No, no new development on ttr (which, for the moment, is dead), but I have made a handy patch to change pydance back to the way it ought to be.
                    And this is more notable?


                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    "Someone is making a bad post! On FFR! Let's crowd in a circle around them and grab each others' dicks comrades. Team Litodude, ASSSEEEEEMMMBLEEE!"

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                    • Commandersa1
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2344

                      #25
                      Re: Wikipedia!

                      If anyone really wants to do this. Just find random news articles that talk about FFR, and see if they can stand up to the deletion mods standards.






                      I found some, and they just say the general info about the site. There really is not much to check with this info.

                      Are blogs valid proof of information?

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