Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thread

[stavie33]

Well, I've noticed a lot of problems with the original list and I wanted a thread where the new list is on the front page (so I don't have to find what page I last posted the most updated list on) and where people can have a poll on whether or not a song should be a certain rating, today's song is the greatly debated, None Would Escape. 75 or 76? Now for the lists

Original list with IMO necessary changes:

70 (M) Adult's Sketchbook (869 Notes / BPM 45-115)
70 (C) Classical Insanity (1101 Notes / BPM 175)
70 (D2) Ascii Art Core (787 Notes / BPM 190)
70 (M) Chlorophyll (1194 Notes / BPM 164)
70 (S) Gradeus (1505 Notes / BPM 180)
70 (D2) Get Down (1151 Notes / BPM 165)
70 (D2) Epic (1175 Notes / BPM 170)
70 (R) The Epidemic of Unexpected Relapses [Heavy] (1277 Notes / BPM )
71 (M) Splash Beats (842 Notes / BPM 190)
71 (D2) Air (1940 Notes / BPM 178)
71 (D2) Klung Kung (1668 Notes / BPM 175)
71 (D2) {I Don't Need You Anymore} (1960 Notes / BPM 45-180)
71 (A) Shanghai Girl Of Meiji 17 (1919 Notes / BPM 140)
71 (S) End Night (1126 Notes / BPM 150)
71 (M) Szamar Madar (1094 Notes / BPM 174)
71 (M) Pretty Green Onions (1604 Notes / BPM 193)
71 (R) Cosmic Orchestra (1590 Notes / BPM 150)
71 (A) The Games We Played, Part 3 (1301 Notes / BPM 21-230)
71 (D2) Nova Pulser (762 Notes / BPM 180)[*]
72 (D2) R176 (998 Notes / BPM 190)
72 (M) Jelly Roll Blues (778 Notes / BPM 144)
72 (S) Shihen (1030 Notes / BPM 198)
72 (D2) Hero's Theme (w.i.p.) (1102 Notes / BPM 140)
72 (A) The Games We Played, Part 1 (1189 Notes / BPM 25-190)
73 (A) Monstrous Turtles! (1384 Notes / BPM 51.5-103)
73 (A) Lunar Saturation (1095 Notes / BPM 185)
73 (M) Pwntendo (1144 Notes / BPM 196)
73 (M) Final Step (1916 Notes / BPM 150)
73 (D2) Sympathizer (1928 Notes / BPM 200)
74 (S) Blue Army (3330 Notes / BPM 182.2)
74 (D2) M.A.M.A. (1263 Notes / BPM 175)
74 (M) Garyuutensei (1168 Notes / BPM 86-200)
74 (D2) X-Tinction (744 Notes / BPM 180)
74 (C) Turkish March (1056 Notes / BPM 110-124)
74 (D2) None Would Escape (1372 Notes / BPM 48-190)

74 (M) HELLBEAT (504 Notes / BPM 200)
75 (D2) Vertex BETA (1755 Notes / BPM 200)
75 (S) Szerencsetlen (2223 Notes / BPM 174)
75 (A) Balloon Fever (970 Notes / BPM 192)
75 (S) For FFR (866 Notes / BPM 180)

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Master (6/6)
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[5.5/6 - For Masters Only]
76 (M) Going On Spring Wind (1191 Notes / BPM 141)
76 (M) Novo Mundo (1264 Notes / BPM 140)
76 (M) Choprite (1796 Notes / BPM 100-200)
76 (P) Silence (1482 Notes / BPM 140)
77 (S) Lawn Wake IV (1059 Notes / BPM 217)
77 (R) Southern Cross (2123 Notes / BPM 40-172)
77 (S) K8107 (1071 Notes / BPM 180)
77 (M) Hajnal (2000 Notes / BPM 174)
77 (R) The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy] (2495 Notes / BPM )
78 (D) Lawn Wake I (LW EP Edit) (1417 Notes / BPM 215)
78 (S) Midnight Dragon (1396 Notes / BPM 180)
78 (M) Epidermis (1277 Notes / BPM 200)
78 (S) Rottel-da-station (1218 Notes / BPM 200)
79 (P) AIM Anthem (736 Notes / BPM 110)
79 (S) Strangeprogram (1442 Notes / BPM 215)
79 (D2) Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran (1817 Notes / BPM 184)
80 (D2) Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star (1337 Notes / BPM 180)
80 (D2) RunnyMorning (SGX MIX) (1069 Notes / BPM 160)
80 (C) Caprice (1300 Notes / BPM 400)
80 (A) BB Evolution (2631 Notes / BPM 210)
80 (M) Club (573 Notes / BPM 120)
81 (C) Flight of the Bumblebee (862 Notes / BPM 398) (for background issues and jacks, it's harder than BB Evo, what's wrong with people? It's much harder than Club!
81 (A) Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3648 Notes / BPM 49-196)
81 (A) Mario Minor (2450 Notes / BPM 100-430)
82 (A) 4 Chord Touhou (1796 Notes / BPM 175)
82 (C) Piano Etude (Demon Fire) (1687 Notes / BPM 88-201)
82 (R) Eradication (1342 Notes / BPM 200-220)
83 (A) Big Blue (1370 Notes / BPM 226)
83 (R) Blooddrunk [Heavy] (2275 Notes / BPM 180)
83 (C) Piano Etude (Gymnastics) (1253 Notes / BPM 40-166)

[6/6 - For Guru's Only]
84 (D2) Crowdpleaser (1236 Notes / BPM 120)
84 (M) Frictional Nevada (1325 Notes / BPM 225)
84 (M) Ketsarku Mozgalom (1635 Notes / BPM 174)
84 (R) Reality (921 Notes / BPM 259)
84 (A) The Adventures Of Lolo (524 Notes / BPM 225)
85 (S) Pants (3024 Notes / BPM 190)
85 (M) Blue Rose (3622 Notes / BPM 170-180)
87 (C) Grand Gallop Chromatique (2361 Notes / BPM 320)
87 (C) Molto Vivace (1177 Notes / BPM 175)
89 (C) One Minute Waltz (1057 Notes / BPM 160)
90 (C) Revolutionary Etude (1600 Notes / BPM 148)
91 (D2) Eclipse (Solar) (1445 Notes / BPM 165)
95 (C) Death Piano (2453 Notes / BPM 43-200)

New list:

VD's:

54 (D2) Utopia
55 (A) Techno Green Greens
55 (D2) Butterflies (short edit)
55 (D2) Delta Beat
55 (P) Oasis -Long Version-
55 (P) Angel Stays on This Ground vocal remix
55 (A) Vanishing Gungaroon
56 (M) Indulgence
56 (A) Lovers Reef
56 (D2) Dr0p!
56 (M) Grandolin
56 (YTBM) Cyro Sleep
56 (D2) Synic
57 Remember 15 years ago
57 (D2) Megascorcher

C's:

60 (M) Here's to Life Oni
60 (R) Inside the Fire
61 (D2) Into the Night
62 (A) Toona Youkai Zenzen
62 (A) Sword Strike
62 (D2) I am Maid
62 (S) [b]Shining Sky
63 (D2) Infinity 301
63 (YTBM) Nebula
63 (A) Rumia, Sealed Youkai of the Night
63 (R) Comfort Betrays
63 (P) R8U another
64 (P) Felys
64 (D2) Shapeshifter
64 (H) Brainwave
64 (D2) Dokodemo Kawaii
64 (P) Battle Theme #36
64 (YTBM) Streets
65 (YTBM) ABCDEath
65 (M) Far Away From Home
65 (D2) Tell me a Story (compendium mix)
65 (M) Relic Expedition in Another Star
66 (YTBM) Chaoz Japan
66 (D2) Crystal Wind
66 (P) Falsie, the Pseudo Science girl
67 (P) Lapis ~the heaven's~
67 (M) WAIWAI230
67 (A) Gym Leader (RBY)
67 (P) Toph's Opening remix
67 (M) Fei Longer
67 (M) Washamoose's OP

VC's:

68 (YTBM) Fighting For Control
68 (D2) Nitrx
68 (D2) Kamone 100%
68 (A) Pure in Asia
69 (M) Otter's Dance (Hot Root mix)
69 (M) Fake Jazz
69 (A) {Big Boss}
69 (D2) Randomness Reactor 3
69 (M) Ninja Lad
69 (YTBM) Witches Hat
69 (M) Gacha Gacha Figu@mate
69 (A) Border of Maximum
70 (D2) Speedcore Sunday
70 (M) Do a Barrel Roll!
70 (A) Casket of Star
71 (M) We Wish You A Merry XMas (Jazzy Groove Mix)
71 (D2) Happy Happy Shining Star!
71 (P) Procrastination on Paper
71 (R) Air Sul in G. Rock
72 (D2) DMYK
72 (A) Shining Sword
72 (YTBM) Destined Marionette
72 (YTBM) Nebula (she)
72 (A) The Final Conflict
73 (M) Purple
73 (A) A World Of Piano
73 (M) Piano X Forte
73 (A) moon_child -Go with the flow-
73 (D2) Crash the Beat!
73 (D2) Illumination of the Sky
73 (D2) Ievan Polka
74 (YTBM) Run Through the Stream of Time
74 (A) The Lunatic Princess
74 (S) Szeretscetlen
75 (A) Kil Stage
75 (M) Keep In Mind
75 (YTBM) Bus Rides With People
75 (YTBM) Twelve
75 (P) Kanon-Kanon

FMO's:

76 (M) Jeanie and Caroline
76 (C) Black Key Etude
76 (D2) Summer Time Perfume
76 (D2) 300
77 (A) Thrash
77 (D2) Scythe of 13
77 (YTBM) Largiloquent Dithyramb
77 (A) Radio Heads
78 (M) Church Bells
78 (A) Night and Day
78 (A) Battle Theme #37
78 (P) Blue Violet
79 (YTBM) Kyrie
79 (H) Dead and Direct
79 (P) Document 13b
79 (A) Brandish Headless
80 (P) Master Maid
80 (D2) 3020
80 (R) Bloodmeat [Heavy]
80 (C) bmv .578
80 (S) Bloodhounds on my Trail
80 (YTBM) Perfect Cherry Storm
80 (S) World Tour 2004
81 (M) October
82 (M) Silly Symphony
82 (D2) Toxiferous Dystopia
83 (P) Momentary Life
83 (S) He's a Radical Rat

FGO's:

85 (P) Holy Orders
85 (D2) Nomina Nuda Tenemus
85 (A) Across Rooftops
85 (M) Integraation
85 (D2) Strawberry Sweetz
85 (S) Planet Karma
86 (M) I Hate The 80s
86 (D2) Kidney Stone
86 (D2) Little God Channel
86 (D2) Necropotence
87 (D2) Hardkore Atomic
89 (YTBM) Schmollbluk
91 (P) Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern
92 (A) Almost There
92 (C) La Campanella

13th difficulty:

96 (M) Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion

Tokens:

FMO:

77 (T) Pianocore

FGO:

93 (T) Here we Go!!

Skill Tokens:

FMO's:

76 (ST) OMW v2
76 (ST) Disconnected Hardkore
76 (ST) Gacha Gacha Hertz figu@radio
77 (ST) Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia Mov. 3
79 (ST) Nanairopanda v2

opinions?

[stavie33]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

Forgot to put in the poll, is it possible to fix that now? Question is:

NWE: 75 or 76?

[i love you]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

This was actually mentioned in the thread EAG made. Jimerax said that he was going to update the list soon so don't worry too much about it.

[mhss1992]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

I completely agree with Klung Kung 2004 as 71. 69? What were they thinking?

[[TeRa]]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

Yeah, fotbb doesn't have a single jack lul, though I surely agree it's harder than Club.

[MrMagic5239]

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Silence should stay FMO, 100 ppl didn't even AAA it. I honostly don't think it is that hard, but ALOT of people find it hard.

[stavie33]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

Silence should stay FMO, 100 ppl didn't even AAA it. I honostly don't think it is that hard, but ALOT of people find it hard.

it's still FMO, just lowest FMO, just fyi, the trills in FotBB result in four framers, which iirc, are considered jacks. Like the 32nd trills in Holy Orders, are they not just 16th jacks right next to eachother?

[Coolboyrulez0]

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I honestly don't think Lolo should be FGO. Look at the amount of other FGO AAAs
It should be a borderline FMO :/

[Oni-Paranoia]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

Lolo shouldn't be FGO because of length.
Club is easier than FOTBB (Constant trills V.S. 25 secs worth of jacks)
Klung Kung is simple, minor stream and chain jumps for about 3 mins.
NWE is worth an easy FMO

P.s.
I AAAed southern cross but I can't touch silence..

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

NWE = 74. Look at all of the other 75s and if you can tell me that NWE is harder than any of those, using concrete proof from the chart with an unbiased opinion, then I'll reconsider it being a 75. >_>;

I don't care what happens to Lolo, it's completely debatable because of the extremely short song length.

I definitely agree with you about FotBB: all blue notes, background issues, and you even have to hit off-sync in some parts to score on it properly.

71 (D2) Nova Pulser (762 Notes / BPM 180)[*]

Asterisk?

[bluguerrilla]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

it's still FMO, just lowest FMO, just fyi, the trills in FotBB result in four framers, which iirc, are considered jacks. Like the 32nd trills in Holy Orders, are they not just 16th jacks right next to eachother?

No, they aren't.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

How is "67 (A) Gym Leader (RBY)" only a C? It's a VC due to the speed and how repetitive the patterns are which can easily get confusing. That intro's a bitch to. You also forgot to add KlungKung 2004 to "your list"

[TC_Halogen]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

About Holy Orders: At that low of a speed, they most definitely are not jacks--you'll stream goods if you try to take the trill as a jump jack.

[who_cares973]

Re: Unofficial FFR R1 Real difficulties ORIGINAL list changes vote and discussion thr

hey guys how about we set songs that will determine the highest and lowest songs in a difficulty. like what they did with over the frail dream. that way when determining difficulty placement we can look at those two songs and compare the charts

[Bluearrowll]

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La Campanella should be switched with Almost There because the scores on both songs indicate that Almost There is easier.

top 10 on almost there takes about 35 goods while La Campanella takes a mash FC.