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  • leonid
    I am leonid
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Oct 2008
    • 8080

    #1

    Some math

    When one plays a NORMAL song with 1500 notes, there are 1500 ways for him/her to blackflag it, while there is only one way to AAA it.


    Thus, to AAA that song is 1500 times harder than to blackflag it, which is BS!!





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  • ninjaKIWI
    plain old ugly ass dumbas
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 3304

    #2
    Re: Some math

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    • tofurox
      Them arrows.
      • May 2006
      • 2263

      #3
      Re: Some math

      You know, surprisingly that makes sence.

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      • Zybanthia
        FFR Player
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2008
        • 809

        #4
        Re: Some math

        Unfortunately, even this is too simple; take into account all the ways you can double blackflag a song.

        The plot thickens.

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        • TC_Halogen
          Rhythm game specialist.
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2008
          • 19376

          #5
          Re: Some math

          Numerically, that is correct.

          Now, let's change it into a much more complicated problem. Obviously, you are more likely to rack up a good on a complex sequence of notes instead of quarter notes, so now you have to add probability and compare it with your skill level on other songs. Solve THIS problem. ^_^

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          • foilman8805
            smoke wheat hail satin
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Sep 2006
            • 5704

            #6
            Re: Some math

            Not to mention that there's actually 3 frames in which you can hit a Perfect, and 2 frames to hit a Good. Probably ****s things up even more.

            Also, I did some extra math, and my calculations said that ninjaKIWI's sig is larger than the distance from here to the sun. Interesting. When combined with tofurox's signature, the both of them are equivalent to the span of the Milky Way galaxy.

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            • leonid
              I am leonid
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Oct 2008
              • 8080

              #7
              Re: Some math

              What I actually meant was that this is the reason why AAA'ing is so hard..

              BTW, there are 1500C2 (which is 1124250) ways to get exactly 2 goods from a 1500-note song.


              Considering that one hits a Perfect in 3 frames and hits a Good in 2 frames,
              the probability for..
              getting an AAA = (3/5)^1500,
              getting a blackflag = 1500*((3/5)^1499)*(2/5)
              getting exactly 2 goods = 1124250*((3/5)^1498)*((2/5)^2)

              I have no good calculators to get the exact value.


              Man I'm too bored.



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              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #8
                Re: Some math

                Originally posted by leonid
                Considering that one hits a Perfect in 3 frames and hits a Good in 2 frames,
                the probability for..
                getting an AAA = (3/5)^1500,
                getting a blackflag = 1500*((3/5)^1499)*(2/5)
                getting exactly 2 goods = 1124250*((3/5)^1498)*((2/5)^2)
                So much math... Dx

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                • kjwkjw
                  >w<
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2585

                  #9
                  Re: Some math

                  leonid : Bored? lol, consider this then...

                  Mathematically, between AAA'ing a 1500-arrow normal song and getting an all-good clean FC on it, which is "harder"? By how much?

                  Hmm... let's see.. perfect = 3 frames, good = 2 frames.

                  *head explodes*

                  You should be a bit less bored struggling with this weird question, lol


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                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #10
                    Re: Some math

                    Let's add in one more factor: FFR runs at 30 FPS...so with that being said, one frame = ~0.033 seconds. Now you can really throw a numerical picture together.

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                    • kjwkjw
                      >w<
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2585

                      #11
                      Re: Some math

                      Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                      Let's add in one more factor: FFR runs at 30 FPS...so with that being said, one frame = ~0.033 seconds. Now you can really throw a numerical picture together.
                      In that case, am I right in saying that, for a given arrow, the total timeframe for which you can get a perfect is 0.1 second, and for a good ~0.066 second?

                      How about an average? Is it 1 frame for hitting the note early? Not sure....

                      Wow, this is interesting XD


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                      • foilman8805
                        smoke wheat hail satin
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 5704

                        #12
                        Re: Some math

                        Originally posted by kjwkjw
                        In that case, am I right in saying that, for a given arrow, the total timeframe for which you can get a perfect is 0.1 second, and for a good ~0.066 second?
                        This is correct, although it's more like .0333 seconds for the first Good, then .1 seconds for a perfect, and then an additional .0333 seconds for the second Good.

                        Originally posted by kjwkjw
                        How about an average? Is it 1 frame for hitting the note early? Not sure....
                        You're right. There is only one frame to get an average in, and that would be two frames before the first Perfect frame, and one frame before the Good frame.

                        P.S. frame frame frame frame frame frame frame frame frame lol

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                        • kjwkjw
                          >w<
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2585

                          #13
                          Re: Some math

                          So the frames go...

                          Good
                          Perfect
                          -----arrow (Perfect)-----
                          Perfect
                          Good
                          Average

                          I see.

                          So how do we go about solving the head-exploding-friendly question I threw out? lol


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                          • [TeRa]
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 9922

                            #14
                            Re: Some math

                            Actually it's:

                            Miss
                            Good
                            Good
                            Perfect - Receptors here
                            Perfect
                            Perfect
                            Good
                            Average
                            Last edited by [TeRa]; 02-1-2009, 12:54 AM.

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                            • kjwkjw
                              >w<
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2585

                              #15
                              Re: Some math

                              Oh, so there are actually 3 frames for which you can get a good on?

                              Interesting.


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