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  • Tophius
    Flame Cat
    • Feb 2006
    • 509

    #1

    Practicing PA.

    Hey guys. I was wondering if I could get a few pointers on how to make my PA better (significantly better). I'm just completely fed up with SDG/BFing really simple songs, and I've hit a roadblock in terms of advancement in skill.

    Thanks in advance.
  • .Holy
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2007
    • 73

    #2
    Re: Practicing PA.

    Practice would be one pointer. Playing on a higher speed mod is also a little helpful because if you have to react faster your more likely to get perfects... don't play on x3 if your on x2. I usually play on x1.75 on FC's and if I want to AAA something I just play on x2. I don't really try for AAA's but I think this tip is alright for getting more.

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    • Tophius
      Flame Cat
      • Feb 2006
      • 509

      #3
      Re: Practicing PA.

      Originally posted by .Holy
      Practice would be one pointer. Playing on a higher speed mod is also a little helpful because if you have to react faster your more likely to get perfects... don't play on x3 if your on x2. I usually play on x1.75 on FC's and if I want to AAA something I just play on x2. I don't really try for AAA's but I think this tip is alright for getting more.
      I seem to do worse when I play on 1.75X. I personally play on 1.5X, and it seems to be going good. I'll give it a try, and see what I think.

      Do you know any good FFR/SM songs that would help me get better at PA/MAing songs?

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      • Frozen Beat
        coLSBMidday, zerg sc2 pro
        • Nov 2007
        • 1092

        #4
        Re: Practicing PA.

        I would recommend 1.75...


        By the way...lowering your avrank increases your PA at an absolutely insane rate.

        Feel several different pains, before they're colored pure red
        Make a little chance! Start connecting us into to tomorrow, ready and go!
        No matter how many times I keep going down, in these unending rounds
        I'm gonna keep up! We can create hope, it's our story!

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        • infinity.
          sideways 8
          • Sep 2007
          • 1706

          #5
          Re: Practicing PA.

          Originally posted by Frozen Beat

          By the way...lowering your avrank increases your PA at an absolutely insane rate.
          ...
          were you even thinking when you posted this?
          signatures are for nerds

          nerds

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          • Tophius
            Flame Cat
            • Feb 2006
            • 509

            #6
            Re: Practicing PA.

            Originally posted by Infinity.
            ...
            were you even thinking when you posted this?
            Now that I think about it, that makes no sense. In order to lower my Avrank, I would have to get better at PAing songs. 1.75X isn't working for me, it's actually made my PA worse. Any other suggestions?

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            • eric25
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2006
              • 135

              #7
              Re: Practicing PA.

              You could try playing Stepmania. The timing windows are harder and if you got good at Stepmania, your FFR game could be better.

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              • Tophius
                Flame Cat
                • Feb 2006
                • 509

                #8
                Re: Practicing PA.

                Originally posted by eric25
                You could try playing Stepmania. The timing windows are harder and if you got good at Stepmania, your FFR game could be better.
                I've been trying to get into SM some more, but I don't see a realy improvement in my PA/MA yet. Do you have any stepfiles that you would recommend to me, so I can get better?

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                • ninjaKIWI
                  plain old ugly ass dumbas
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3304

                  #9
                  Re: Practicing PA.

                  Play easy stuff on SM like Haydens Ageha, and You Are. Play until you can AAA stuff atleast as hard as those on SM, then you should be fine on FFR 'cause FFR is easy ****s.

                  It takes a while, but it's worth it.
                  Originally posted by Jewpinthethird
                  "Hey Keywii" Said Foil in a raspy voice.
                  "Hey Foil. What's that you got there?" inquired Keywii.
                  "Oh, just my cock." Replied Foil.
                  "That just will not do." was keywii's response as she lunged for the scissors, pulled the blades apart, and clamped them down on the base of foil's shaft. Blood start gushing out of the wound where his penis used to be.
                  "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Yelled Foil in horror.
                  "Don't worry. I'm a wizard" uttered Keywii. And with that, Foil's penis grew back.

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                  • i love you
                    Live a wonderful life~
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 7313

                    #10
                    Re: Practicing PA.

                    1. Start off by Practicing PAing on EASY songs first! Don't worry about comboing while you practice PAing. (A lot of people don't know this which is not surprising)

                    2. You need windows XP and a good keyboard if you want even better PA. Vista sucks for FFR. The most common keyboards most people use are either a logitech keyboard or some kind of "laptop-ish" keyboard. If you have a laptop, thats fine too although not everyone likes to use laptops so they get like an attachment keyboard to plug in the laptop.

                    3. Playing Stepmania can improve your speed and PA/MA by a lot if you play enough. If you don't have stepmania, you can download it at either www.stepmania.com -or- www.stepmaniaonline.com.

                    4. Sometimes, changing the key-mapping can help you get better at PA. Also, it's better if you play spread because that's the best style and the most commonly used style.

                    5. Practice! Practice! Practice! I can't stress that enough. xD

                    EDIT: Some packs you can start with are DDR packs, ITG packs, or basic SM simfiles like: Haydens Ageha, Quesar, or any simfiles with a difficulty of 11 or below.
                    Last edited by i love you; 05-26-2008, 09:38 PM.
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                    • Tophius
                      Flame Cat
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 509

                      #11
                      Re: Practicing PA.

                      Originally posted by i love you
                      1. Start off by Practicing PAing on EASY songs first! Don't worry about comboing while you practice PAing. (A lot of people don't know this which is not surprising)

                      2. You need windows XP and a good keyboard if you want even better PA. Vista sucks for FFR. The most common keyboards most people use are either a logitech keyboard or some kind of "laptop-ish" keyboard. If you have a laptop, thats fine too although not everyone likes to use laptops so they get like an attachment keyboard to plug in the laptop.

                      3. Playing Stepmania can improve your speed and PA/MA by a lot if you play enough. If you don't have stepmania, you can download it at either www.stepmania.com -or- www.stepmaniaonline.com.

                      4. Sometimes, changing the key-mapping can help you get better at PA. Also, it's better if you play spread because that's the best style and the most commonly used style.

                      5. Practice! Practice! Practice! I can't stress that enough. xD
                      Thanks for the tips!

                      I do have Windows XP, and I will never change it for that crappy Vista. My keyboard sucks (in my opinion), so I should go buy a new one. It's an old Compaq keyboard. ._.

                      Which one is better- SM or SMO? I have SM 3.9 at the moment, SM 4 kept screwing up on me.

                      I do play spread, I play AS KL. What would be an alternative to that?

                      EDIT: Oh yeah, I've had this on my mind and I've been wanting to ask it to someone. Are there any official stepfiles for SM? The only stepfiles I have at the moment are ones from packs made either on FFR or on ODI.

                      EDIT2:
                      Originally posted by NinjaKIWI
                      Play easy stuff on SM like Haydens Ageha, and You Are. Play until you can AAA stuff atleast as hard as those on SM, then you should be fine on FFR 'cause FFR is easy ****s.

                      It takes a while, but it's worth it.
                      Can you send me those stepfiles, please?
                      Last edited by Tophius; 05-26-2008, 09:41 PM.

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                      • Xx{Midday}xX
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3518

                        #12
                        Re: Practicing PA.

                        There are 3 downers that I confront when I observe my PA.

                        1) You can't control reflexive reaction/anticipation: This is caused mostly by repeating a song/sequence too many times. Bad habits form, causing you to "lock your fingers" in a way that obstructs your accuracy. Easiest solution is to whore a variety of songs with a variety of step patterns at the same time. This is the problem I encounter the most.
                        2) You can't read: This is caused by either arrow overlap, or your speedmod is too fast. Overlapping arrows tend to mess up my reading. I had to switch from 1.5x to 1.75x in order to get good PA on Epidermis. (Now I'm permanently 1.75, sometimes 2x.) Obviously, if the speedmod is too fast, you can't read/react fast enough to hit the arrows on time.
                        3) There is a specific pattern that automatically causes you to lose your PA: Most players coin this as a mental block. The best way to avoid mental blocks are to vary your playing and playstyle, or just take a break all together. If it is a technical problem, meaning you couldn't do the certain pattern from the start, the only thing I can tell you to do is ... practice?

                        If your goods are random and sporadically placed as well as frequent, the only way to raise your PA is to increase your stamina and concentration. This is the hardest way to raise your PA though. =/
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                        • Tophius
                          Flame Cat
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 509

                          #13
                          Re: Practicing PA.

                          Originally posted by Xx{Midday}xX
                          There are 3 downers that I confront when I observe my PA.

                          1) You can't control reflexive reaction/anticipation: This is caused mostly by repeating a song/sequence too many times. Bad habits form, causing you to "lock your fingers" in a way that obstructs your accuracy. Easiest solution is to whore a variety of songs with a variety of step patterns at the same time. This is the problem I encounter the most.
                          2) You can't read: This is caused by either arrow overlap, or your speedmod is too fast. Overlapping arrows tend to mess up my reading. I had to switch from 1.5x to 1.75x in order to get good PA on Epidermis. (Now I'm permanently 1.75, sometimes 2x.) Obviously, if the speedmod is too fast, you can't read/react fast enough to hit the arrows on time.
                          3) There is a specific pattern that automatically causes you to lose your PA: Most players coin this as a mental block. The best way to avoid mental blocks are to vary your playing and playstyle, or just take a break all together. If it is a technical problem, meaning you couldn't do the certain pattern from the start, the only thing I can tell you to do is ... practice?

                          If your goods are random and sporadically placed as well as frequent, the only way to raise your PA is to increase your stamina and concentration. This is the hardest way to raise your PA though. =/
                          I'm willing to try anything. The amount of AAAs that I have, compared to the amount of FCs that I have is horrible. :P

                          What I find is that I can PA Jumps and Chains pretty well, but I'm horrible at PAing Streams and Jumpstreams.

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                          • LLaMaSaUceYup
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3759

                            #14
                            Re: Practicing PA.

                            JUDGE 7 ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THEEEEEEEEEEEE WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!
                            Seriously.

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                            • who_cares973
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 15407

                              #15
                              Re: Practicing PA.

                              ive gotten worse at ffr ever since i started whoring sm haha

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