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  • Privateer
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2003
    • 2962

    #1

    Syncing an FFR Stepfile...

    If you are going to make a stepfile to be put on FFR, I can lend a valuable hand.

    I'm speaking about getting around one of FFR's biggest foes--gap. I've found a way around the gap incompatibility FFR has. It's a weird process, but it works pretty well. An example of what I do can be found in one of the upcoming songs to FFR I stepped.

    I'll introduce this process with an example. Let's say the song I'm working with has 200bpm, a gap if 500 (.5 seconds), and the first sound of the whole mp3 is at .3 seconds.

    This can be done in most any music editting software, like Audacity.

    1. Delete all silence between 0.00 seconds and the first sound of your whole song.

    2. Because there is no song that has the first noise of the whole song being the first beat (where the gap would be), you need to do something else. Find the number of seconds between the gap and the first sound of the song. In this case, it's .2, because .5-.3=.2.

    3. Find the number of seconds between each beat. That can be calculated by dividing 60 seconds by the bpm. In our example song, there is a beat every .3 seconds.

    4. The goal of this whole system is to create artificial beats that start at exactly 0.000. To do this, you are going to insert silences. Putting in two fake beats is good, because more than 2 calls for error, and 1 leaves too small of a buffer between the first note and 0.000. Each "fake" beat is .3 seconds, so you would obviously multiply that by 2 (.6). Remember, if you insert .6 seconds, you are saying the beat starts on the first note of the song, which is wrong. You need to subtract what you found in step 2 from .6. That would mean .4. Insert .4 seconds of silence and voila.

    *It's very hard to do this well, unless you know why you are doing these steps, and what they mean. There is no way this process will get you acceptable syncing, so after you do this, you should go into SM editor and check the syncing. It'll probably be within anywhere from 5 to 15 gap if you run this process correctly. Play around with the silences until it's synced to the point where there would only be a few forced greats on a player.*
  • RageVI
    FFR Music Producers
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Oct 2003
    • 163

    #2
    I think it's a very good idea, it should be tried out.

    It may just be logical enough to work! Imagine that

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    • ToshX
      FFR Player
      • Feb 2004
      • 5111

      #3
      In many songs, the beats dont stay repeatative throughout the whole song

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      • Privateer
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2003
        • 2962

        #4
        Then you can't step it for FFR, anyways.

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        • ToshX
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2004
          • 5111

          #5
          Re: Syncing an FFR Stepfile...

          Originally posted by Privateer
          In this case, it's .2, because .5-.3=.1

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          • Privateer
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2003
            • 2962

            #6
            You don't understand what those numbers mean so shhhhh. Reread it.

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            • ZEROED
              FFR Player
              • May 2003
              • 511

              #7
              lol, he also put that in a funny quotes thread


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              • MEGAginge
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2002
                • 430

                #8
                I believe Arch0wl stated something similar in the past... but FFR isnt all about just rehashing existing songs. Infact: It will NEVER have openly playable non-original songs. Also: If what you mean is to try and incorporate gaps here: because of the hit/miss system gaps could never be incorporated without a complete system change. this has been discussed but dismissed in the past.

                FYI: I must confess to not reading all of your original message

                //MEGAginge


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                • Privateer
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2962

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MEGAginge
                  I believe Arch0wl stated something similar in the past... but FFR isnt all about just rehashing existing songs. Infact: It will NEVER have openly playable non-original songs. Also: If what you mean is to try and incorporate gaps here: because of the hit/miss system gaps could never be incorporated without a complete system change. this has been discussed but dismissed in the past.

                  FYI: I must confess to not reading all of your original message
                  Other than the FYI, all I have to say is, huh?

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                  • Kilgamayan
                    Super Scooter Happy
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6583

                    #10
                    You need a gap of 0, right?

                    I probably missed that somewhere in your post.
                    I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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                    • Privateer
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2962

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kilgamayan
                      You need a gap of 0, right?

                      I probably missed that somewhere in your post.
                      Originally posted by Privateer
                      I'm speaking about getting around one of FFR's biggest foes--gap. I've found a way around the gap incompatibility FFR has.

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                      • Moogy
                        嗚呼
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 10303

                        #12
                        Who cares... just put 0 gap and be done with it, FFR is offbeat enough to compensate for zero gap.
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                        • alainbryden
                          Seen your member
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 2873

                          #13
                          or, you know, trial and error.
                          ~NEIGH

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                          • Reach
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 7471

                            #14
                            o_O Its so easy. Why that big, long ass paragraph?

                            Just find the gap by finding the first beat in the editor.

                            Then just have the beats fall on the same note the whole song.

                            Example: Take payon. It starts on a 16th, arch did not put a gap, so he just continued the song so the beats fell on a 16th.

                            It'll come out sync'd as close as its gonna get for ffr anyway.

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                            • Privateer
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2962

                              #15
                              *PLEASE USE THIS METHOD*

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