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  • NumiGamer
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 337

    #1

    2 Questions.

    1. To everyone - Who got permission from Venetian Snares to allow his/her songs on FFR?

    2. To the unknown person mentioned above - Did Vsnares deny permission to use full songs of his/hers? The real Hajnal is about 7:42, not 3:33, and Szamar Madar is I think 5:47. Whats up with that? The full versions are better.
    Originally posted by tofurox;
    Roflwagon
  • reptile3141
    FFR Veteran
    • Dec 2006
    • 927

    #2
    Re: 2 Questions.

    Two possibilities I assume.

    1. Songs, such as the near 8 minute one, are probably too long to step.
    2. Maybe the step artists don't find it necessary to step the WHOLE song. It's possible that the step artists think that only stepping a certain portion of the song would make it better.
    Last edited by reptile3141; 04-23-2008, 06:09 PM.
    Originally posted by [TeRa]
    Ahhh, I'll buy it at a high price!

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    • Xx{Midday}xX
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 3518

      #3
      Re: 2 Questions.

      Half of FFR already hate long songs. (I personally love them.) They already complain about 4 minutes. Therefore, cut.

      I never heard of Venetian Snares outside FFR, so I wouldn't know, but maybe it was too repetitive stepfile wise?
      Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
      Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
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      • dorama
        Banned
        • Mar 2008
        • 87

        #4
        Re: 2 Questions.

        both song's full versions would be unsteppable basically.
        rofl a full version of szamar madar.

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        • Silvuh
          quit
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Apr 2005
          • 938

          #5
          Re: 2 Questions.

          Originally posted by dorama
          both song's full versions would be unsteppable basically.
          rofl a full version of szamar madar.
          BDN stepped the full version of Szamár Madár, and he pushed for it to be accepted, but they wouldn't allow it... It was fun, but, yeah, a song being lengthy, especially when there are long breaks between steps or not many steps at all, often decreases the "fun" factor. Repetitiveness cuts down the "fun" factor, too, hence why many DJ Sharpnel songs are also cut.
          You can step long songs of course, so you can't say they're "too long to step".

          I have no idea who originally received permission from Venetian Snares, but it's possible you could look through the Blanket Permissions or search the forums to find someone proclaiming they received said permission.

          EDIT: Did some searching. This answers the opening post's first question.
          http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=239

          P.S. Venetian Snares is male, so you can say "his songs on FFR".
          Last edited by Silvuh; 04-23-2008, 06:25 PM.

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          • OneHandNow
            Banned
            • Sep 2006
            • 5305

            #6
            Re: 2 Questions.

            Full version of Szamár Madár would be kind of weird.

            The beginning is a bit.. un-steppable.

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            • rushyrulz
              Digital Dancing!
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2006
              • 12985

              #7
              Re: 2 Questions.

              I wouldn't mind some longer Challenging+ songs. Forget anything else 4 minutes or later under challenging.


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              • Zageron
                Zageron E. Tazaterra
                FFR Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 6592

                #8
                Re: 2 Questions.

                Moonearth by DJSharp would be a good 7 minute song.

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                • Evascythe
                  evascythe
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2909

                  #9
                  Re: 2 Questions.

                  full version of frictional nevada would be neat


                  Originally posted by moches
                  I love your avatar and you seem like a chill dude

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                  • Tasselfoot
                    Retired BOSS
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 25185

                    #10
                    Re: 2 Questions.

                    don't hold your breathe on long, fairly repetitive songs. we won't allow them and will force a cut. it's a rare instance (blue army) when we specifically want the full version and not a cut.
                    RIP

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                    • Xx{Midday}xX
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3518

                      #11
                      Re: 2 Questions.

                      Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                      don't hold your breathe on long, fairly repetitive songs. we won't allow them and will force a cut. it's a rare instance (blue army) when we specifically want the full version and not a cut.
                      Haha... so why did Blue Army stay full? So that there will be a Blue skill token like you said before?

                      Btw... 2AM-4AM, updating my own thread. x_x
                      Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                      Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                      Accumulating all playstyles here!


                      つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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                      • Tasselfoot
                        Retired BOSS
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 25185

                        #12
                        Re: 2 Questions.

                        no. shash just had a hard-on for wanting the full version only. wasn't until after shash quit the site that we accepted a version of it, but i kept his wish.
                        RIP

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                        • Xx{Midday}xX
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3518

                          #13
                          Re: 2 Questions.

                          Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                          no. shash just had a hard-on for wanting the full version only. wasn't until after shash quit the site that we accepted a version of it, but i kept his wish.
                          Truly respectable ;D... so I guess there really won't be anymore long songs unless if another veteran leaves a dying message...
                          Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                          Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                          Accumulating all playstyles here!


                          つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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                          • knuckles2224
                            Angel Island ♥
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1530

                            #14
                            Re: 2 Questions.

                            If you want the full version step them yourself and play it on Stepmania, that simple?


                            Originally posted by arrekusuof93
                            Knuckles you're just a rebel

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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #15
                              Re: 2 Questions.

                              I have a couple venetian snares files stepped. Maybe i could get them on FFR =D

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