OMG!!!!!!

[OmegaOrdoss]

I just played Blooddrunk [Heavy] or w/e
...
wow

Is FFR forcing us to learn to play spread?

I play index, strict index, its the only way I am comfortable playing, am I the only one who find the 3 and 4 arrows wrong?

[foilman8805]

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No one is forcing you to play spread.

Sorry it's difficult for you, but you'll either have to adapt, or just ignore the song.

EDIT: I love hands and quads. They're ****ing awesome.

[richyrich55]

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^What he said.


Btw, foil, your avatar is disrespectful.

[OmegaOrdoss]

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It seems preaty forcefull to me.

How do you manage to hit 3 or 4 arrows perfectly with 2 fingers, in theory it should not be possible, but it is as I can do by laying my fingers across the arrows, but not only does it hurt to hit the corners of the arrows on my keyboard, but it takes time to recover and I miss the next sets of arrows.

FFR should not have hands or freezes in my opinion.
But I guess as a player my opinion does not matter.

[richyrich55]

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Dude if you can't play it index just don't play it.

If you don't want to admit defeat, try it spread, DL the FFRkeymap prog, it can reassign your arrow keys.

[foilman8805]

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Tasselfoot is against songs with hands and quads for the most part. So, you're not alone, because he's the director of new music, and it's pretty much what he says is what goes.

You'll only find them in FMO and FGO songs because of the avmiss fix. It was the only way to add a high level of difficulty back into the game. You won't ever see them in anything under FMO, so it's not much of a worry.

I hope you do know that FFR was truly made for spread though, so song steps will naturally tend towards what is appropriate for that style of play.

[OmegaOrdoss]

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I cannot play spread, I already gave it an honest try. Trills are impossible with same hand hitting 2 arrows. For me atleast.

These songs with hands should be added to a seperate ranking system such as token/skill are.
Simple fix.

[OmegaOrdoss]

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FFR Was not truly made for spread, I used to play 1 handed and I did fine on everything but Fotbb.

It has moved to a spread orientated play base due to the growth in skill of the players.

[foilman8805]

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I cannot play spread, I already gave it an honest try. Trills are impossible with same hand hitting 2 arrows. For me atleast.

These songs with hands should be added to a seperate ranking system such as token/skill are.
Simple fix.

Yeah, it's not easy learning spread, and the pivotal weakness of most spread players is as you pointed out: 1-handed trills.

Sorry to say, but these songs are public and won't be moved. Take comfort in knowing that FFR will not be taken over by them. I mean, really, as an index player, can you honestly play FMO/FGO anyways? I mean like FCing them, not just passing.

It has moved to a spread orientated play base due to the growth in skill of the players.

Spread made them better. I think you should consider giving spread a second shot. Maybe?

[RoastedNoob]

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Learn to hit two keys with one finger... or three keys even. I love Blooddrunk, though. I think it's the funnest song on FFR.

[Jaito]

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Or, heres a suggestion, you play the song on foot, and use your hands to hit the designated arrows with your hands, thus using your feet for 2 arrows, and hands for 2 arrows, you won't miss

[xXFFR_EliteXx]

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Use your hands to hit the designated arrows with your hands

Or your face.

[OmegaOrdoss]

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Or, heres a suggestion, you play the song on foot, and use your hands to hit the designated arrows with your hands, thus using your feet for 2 arrows, and hands for 2 arrows, you won't miss

I tried already

I hooked my blueshark through the usb and got a key converter and eventually got it working on ffr.

I Played CIA Rave first
it was a blast

[Tasselfoot]

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foil... glad to see you know all of what our opinions are on things...


anyway. as was mentioned, in general, i am against hands in FFR. that's why there hasn't been any files with them until now. BUT. there has been a strong demand for harder songs in FFR, and with the upcoming public avmiss fix... we feel that hands (when used in moderation) help to give the files uniqueness at the upper tiers. Hands will ONLY EVER APPEAR in FMO or FGO songs. These are songs that are meant to be hard! They can be hard for many different reasons or multiple reasons.

My advice... if you don't like playing a song with hands, don't play it. there are hundreds of others. If you still want to play it, but don't want to play it spread... don't. Nobody is forcing you to play it any specific way. Do ITGers complain about hands or mines in the really hard charts? No... they've adapted. You can as well, with practice.

And foil... saying that FFR is made for spread is just silly. Back in 02, almost nobody played spread. The general tendency for someone first learning a 4-arrow keyboard game is to play with 1-hand. Only after experimentation do most people switch to index or spread. Generally, the index people come from a DDR background, as it is not the most natural way to play, or the most intuitive.

Anyway... I hope that helps to explain things for you.

[OmegaOrdoss]

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You can turn mines/hands off on ITG.
You cannot on FFR.

Personally I think all spread players should have been banned along time ago for using third party programs on FFR. But FFR is one of the unique games in the world where third party programs are encouraged rather then forbidden so... I dont know

As for the song goes, I hate the fact that players who basically cheat will easily acheive a higher score then I can playing the way the game was intended/coded to be played.

Also, as far as the demand for harder songs go, the songs are plenty hard enough, it all goes back to using third party programs to cheat and make these songs much more easier.

I dont know where this will lead, I'm sure you wont let it go to hell tho, so I guess I'll just kickback and see ^^