Average Rank

[cry4eternity]

I'd appreciate if somebody could help clear up why ridiculously offsync stepfiles sontribute toward average rank, while skill token and token songs do not.

When I started playing, I played a few easy/standard/tricky songs, and then went to difficult and up. There was no penalty for not playing the easier songs. But now after the average rank statistic has been installed, there is.

So, over the last few days I've been going back and playing some of the songs I never before had played. I made a few AAA's on some of the more on-beat ones, but I'd say the majority of them are not AAA-able unless you know when and where the off-syncness is... which, in my mind, is unfair and unenjoyable. You shouldn't have to turn off your speakers for a rythym game.

Ok, so I guess this turned into a mini-rant. I do appreciate the free-ness of FFR and I am not trying to offend any mods in charge of syncing songs. You guys rock. I just don't like the fact that these offsync songs contribute toward average rank, and if somebody could clear up why this is so, i'd be grateful.

[Adamaja456]

Re: Average Rank

offsync files count towards average rank because there original epic songs =]

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: Average Rank

They aren't that hard. Just practice practice PRACTICE.

[devonin]

Re: Average Rank

I'd appreciate if somebody could help clear up why ridiculously offsync stepfiles sontribute toward average rank, while skill token and token songs do not.

All players have access to those old songs automatically, thus they count towards averages. Tokens, Skill tokens and Subscriber songs aren't all available to everybody, so they don't count towards averages.

[omgitznpv]

Re: Average Rank

What devonin said. Secret songs and purchased songs are still considered public songs, though.

[behanjc]

Re: Average Rank

Secret and Purchased are on the levelrank because ANYBODY can whore to get credits, but not everyone can summon up random skill to get skill tokens or think outside the box to get regular tokens

[danny53x]

Re: Average Rank

You shouldn't have to turn off your speakers for a rythym game.

I despise "July" although I AAA'd it with mute.

[-Yukari-]

Re: Average Rank

It seems to me that being able to learn and successfully AAA a stepfile that is out of sync is a skill of its own, and should be counted along with all the other skills. The people who have managed to do this have inarguably displayed a talent, and to receive nothing for it wouldn't quite be fair either.

[afronova1127]

Re: Average Rank

Since ive been here ive been wanting offbeat songs to be put to rest, theyre pointless and i hate them, i agree with wat u said in respect to muting the sound to a rythym game. When i asked about this a while back all i got was "too many people played these songs so theyre here to stay" i mean ffr is completely perfect accept for old jacked up songs, its like the usa in the 1800s: it was perfect in every aspect except there was the old issue of slavery that still needed to be dealt with

[foilman8805]

Re: Average Rank

It seems to me that being able to learn and successfully AAA a stepfile that is out of sync is a skill of its own, and should be counted along with all the other skills. The people who have managed to do this have inarguably displayed a talent, and to receive nothing for it wouldn't quite be fair either.

Like me.

I've only got 4 of those bad boys left:

SSSG
Zelda
Crystalis
Terror From Beyond

Terror From Beyond will be the next to fall as soon as I start playing regularly again.

[thegeddupnoise]

Re: Average Rank

If you take the time to actually AAA one of the ridiculously offsync and jacky files, you wouldn't mind. I've AAAed Crystalis, 136.6 and Terror From Beyond - it takes true skill to AAA offsync files. You may think they're annoying, but it takes skill to get good at them, so they should totally count towards your avg rank.

[arsonistsgetallthegirls]

Re: Average Rank

Offsync files are usually + 3 difficulty then they are listed when it comes to AAA'ing them.

[Rubin0]

Re: Average Rank

The point is that they are the originals. I've been a member for a while and forgot about this site for almost a year. When I came back those songs were the first ones I went to. I remembered them whether they are any good or not. That's all the matters....to me at least.

[cry4eternity]

Re: Average Rank

Originally Posted by devonin
All players have access to those old songs automatically, thus they count towards averages. Tokens, Skill tokens and Subscriber songs aren't all available to everybody, so they don't count towards averages.

Ok, makes sense for the most part. But at least skill tokens (which should represent skill) might make sense to count toward average rank?

Originally Posted by -Yukari-
It seems to me that being able to learn and successfully AAA a stepfile that is out of sync is a skill of its own, and should be counted along with all the other skills. The people who have managed to do this have inarguably displayed a talent, and to receive nothing for it wouldn't quite be fair either.

I agree; it does take an unusual type of skill to AAA an offbeat song. I do not agree, however, that this skill should be involved in gaining ranks in FFR. I don't think that it represents the way the game is intended to be played, in my opinion of course.

[Roi Siveran]

Re: Average Rank

It seems to me that being able to learn and successfully AAA a stepfile that is out of sync is a skill of its own, and should be counted along with all the other skills. The people who have managed to do this have inarguably displayed a talent, and to receive nothing for it wouldn't quite be fair either.

Hehe, I misread this as "It seems to me that being able to learn to successfully step a file out of sync is a skill of its own."

Average ranks remain for the old, off-beat songs because everyone else has to play them off-beat too. It's not like FFR is picking you out to play a more difficult chart than everyone else. You just end up with a low rank because they're that old, and people have had time to AAA/PA them.