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  • rauchster
    FFR Veteran
    • Oct 2004
    • 121

    #1

    Working on my first stepfile.

    And I have a question.
    I know I can release it on my own, but I'd like it to be a official part of the FFR site (as I'm sure everyone would)
    But it's not my music. It's a song by Classical Composer Franz Liszt. You've probably heard of it.
    Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2.

    You may not know that you know it. But you do.
    You can listen to it here:

    Not going to use the entire song either, just parts of the theme that you'd recognize. Starting at about 3:12

    Anywho, back to the original question.
    Since this song is public domain now, is it alright to release it once for consideration into FFR once it's done?
    Last edited by rauchster; 12-12-2007, 10:23 PM.
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  • hi19hi19
    lol happy
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #2
    Re: Working on my first stepfile.

    You need to get permission from the performer. If it's a midi arrangement, get permission from the arranger. Or, you could arrange it yourself.

    In HR #2, the first portion (lassan) would be really boring in all those pauses, with the exception of the massive flourishes, which would just be HARD to sync. The second portion seems more energetic and suited for FFR, but again, a bitch to sync. If you do it right, it would a top class file, though. You're invited to try, but I feel you might find it quite a challenge to get anywhere near right.


    EDIT- Someone should do all the rest of the hungarian rhapsodies. They could have a little party in the classic section XD
    Last edited by hi19hi19; 12-12-2007, 10:38 PM.


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    • rauchster
      FFR Veteran
      • Oct 2004
      • 121

      #3
      Re: Working on my first stepfile.

      It's the original work by Franz Liszt (Off of a CD of his work, I already checked, he's listed as the composer arranger)
      And it's not of the Lassan.
      It's is the second section.
      My biggest trouble is just getting the arrows in the right spots, but it helps that I was a Music Major in College. 4 years of Music Theory finally paid off.
      The tempo changes aren't easy either, but I'm working with them.
      I just have a very very very basic outline to start with, and I'm filling in the notes from there one measure at a time.
      I dunno if this is the way to do this or not, but I plan on this ending up to be somewhere in the neighborhood of Very Challenging to For Master's Only.
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      • hi19hi19
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #4
        Re: Working on my first stepfile.

        Well, that's the only method, just sync and fill in notes as you go. Slow and steady.

        I will be delighted to see if this turns out well.


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        • foilman8805
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          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2006
          • 5704

          #5
          Re: Working on my first stepfile.

          Yeah, Classical is very lonely. Same with Hip-Hop.

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          • rauchster
            FFR Veteran
            • Oct 2004
            • 121

            #6
            Re: Working on my first stepfile.

            Back to the original question.
            Since this is a public domain song, will it be legit for submission to FFR?

            And don't worry, I don't do anything half-ass if I can help it.
            But remember it is my first stepfile, so it's gonna take me a while. But I'll make sure to get it right before I put it out.
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            • Tasselfoot
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              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2003
              • 25185

              #7
              Re: Working on my first stepfile.

              someone still performed it... you'd need permission from the performer. unfortunately, i do not currently have a version that you can use (i have a decent number of classical MIDI permissions).

              and, GL with the syncing once you have permission. it will be an absolute nightmare, and i KNOW rebirth will be highly critical in judging.
              RIP

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              • rauchster
                FFR Veteran
                • Oct 2004
                • 121

                #8
                Re: Working on my first stepfile.

                I'll try to track down the performer.
                What form of proof will I need?

                Because if there's no point in doing it if it won't be able to be used, I'd rather not spend all the time on it. I've only done a very very simple outline and then the first three measures.
                And that took me almost a week, so this would be an extensive project.

                And if I get permission, and I actually finish it, I guarantee the syncing will be as close to perfect as I can get it.
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                • Tasselfoot
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  #9
                  Re: Working on my first stepfile.

                  for classical permission permissions, i'm fairly lenient. i'll take a SS of an email, or the performer could email me directly.

                  for something like this, if you're going to try for 1 performer, might be nice to try to get everything they've done, so that other people would have an opportunity to have more classical pieces open to them.

                  as of now, the 100 or so pieces i have permission for are about all we've got... unless someone makes the MIDI themself, or plays and records the piece themself (which i'm having Sprite do for me for a cool ragtime/jazz piece from the early 20s).
                  RIP

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                  • rauchster
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 121

                    #10
                    Re: Working on my first stepfile.

                    Sounds good Tass.
                    I'm researching into the performer right now.

                    If he agrees, I'll then take the next appropriate actions.
                    No point in working on the stepfile if it's not gonna go anywhere.

                    Thanks for the answers.
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                    • rauchster
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 121

                      #11
                      Re: Working on my first stepfile.

                      Alright, I'm back with info and a problem (possibly two).

                      The original performer of the recording version I'm using is dead, and has been for quite some time. What do I have to do for this to get permission, or because the composer and recording artist are both dead, does it fall under public domain?

                      And second, (this is the problem):
                      I was about 16 measures into the song, and when I loaded StepMania to start work on it today, the normally smooth playing file is all messed up.
                      It jumps, and it skips and it's very annoying.
                      When you go to play it, instead of scrolling smoothly down the screen, it's now jumping in erratic steps down the screen.

                      Any ideas? I probably did something I wasn't supposed to.
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                      • tha Guardians
                        MCDC 2011
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1680

                        #12
                        Re: Working on my first stepfile.

                        Make sure you have C### on. If you have #x on, then tempo changes will change scroll speed.

                        So, instead of a x2 setting, put Stepmania on C400 or something. Any number you want.

                        <3 this song

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                        • rauchster
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 121

                          #13
                          Re: Working on my first stepfile.

                          Erm...
                          Stepmania noobie here.
                          I got no idea what C400 or x2 really means or how to change it in StepMania.
                          Explanation please?
                          Thanks.

                          ---

                          EDIT:
                          Found them.
                          Didn't help.
                          I may just start over. I only had 16 of 300+ measures done, won't set me back too much.
                          Last edited by rauchster; 12-19-2007, 10:31 PM.
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