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  • SpookG
    (For Great Justice!)
    FFR Music Producer
    • Dec 2002
    • 829

    #16
    Venetian Snares is some pretty sick shit.. wish I could mix more of his stuff into sets, but it is usually out of common time so it doesn't splice too well.

    Dance like you're selling nails is probably my favorite track, but I can never listen to VS for very long.

    Royal For Great Justice! Electronic Music est. 1999
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    kerBLAM



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    • aperson
      FFR Hall of Fame
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jul 2003
      • 3431

      #17
      Dance like you're selling nails is awesome... but yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anything by him that is in a time signature with a 4 in it

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      • TehWhack
        FFR Veteran
        • Aug 2003
        • 766

        #18
        By any chance was this song made by a 10 years old who discovered they had a music program on their computer? Seriously, this breaks countless rules of music, even for it's style of Electronic. A very poor song indeed.
        Oh hay I used to play ITG

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        • aperson
          FFR Hall of Fame
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2003
          • 3431

          #19
          There are rules of music? I wasn't aware.

          Yes, it's not written in x/4 time sig, there goes one rule.
          It changes keys, oops, another rule.

          Give me a break...

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          • TehWhack
            FFR Veteran
            • Aug 2003
            • 766

            #20
            Originally posted by aperson
            There are rules of music? I wasn't aware.

            Yes, it's not written in x/4 time sig, there goes one rule.
            It changes keys, oops, another rule.

            Give me a break...
            the beat isn't as bad as the rhythm though.....

            awww who am I kidding.... that's not even music. Ofcoarse there's some songs that are exceptions to the way music is supposed to be (i.e. Chopin's Valse op. 64-1, but you folks seem to call it "One Minute Waltz" around here), but this just goes and violates almost everything.

            On the bright side, it will be easier to make an excessively difficult stepfile with this.
            Oh hay I used to play ITG

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            • aperson
              FFR Hall of Fame
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2003
              • 3431

              #21
              Nah it doesn't violate anything. It's just confusing because I think he syncopates three different beats (and trust me, you definitely notice that when stepping the file.)

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              • Yanah_God
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 1330

                #22
                *orgasms*

                the BPM of this song is somewhere around 170

                there you go, TehWhackyOffy

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                • Moogy
                  嗚呼
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 10303

                  #23
                  174, according to Beatcounter.
                  Plz visit my blog

                  ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

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                  • Yanah_God
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1330

                    #24
                    k, whatever, i have to hit my spacebar and it calculates the BPM, so it's not too accurate, BUT

                    *orgasms*

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                    • TehWhack
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 766

                      #25
                      Originally posted by aperson
                      Nah it doesn't violate anything. It's just confusing because I think he syncopates three different beats (and trust me, you definitely notice that when stepping the file.)
                      dude, it violates tune sooooo badly, even for the genre.

                      It's hard to discover the beat though because it's not harmonic, but it still does go faster and slower quite a bit. The only reason why you got a constant beat is because it changes to quickly, or it's only measuring the snare punchies (the stuff that sounds like a jackhammer). Also if you listen to beyond the middle, the beat changes are easier to notice.

                      Interesting fact, "One Minute Waltz" as you call it changes it's beat a couple times through the song (I believe it's 4).
                      Oh hay I used to play ITG

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                      • jewpinthethird
                        (The Fat's Sabobah)
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 11711

                        #26
                        Okay, music is a form of art. And in art, there are no rules. Sure, there are rules that you constrain yourself to when you choose to work under a specific genre or media, but that is different.

                        There are those that consider abstarct art...not to be art at all. And there are others who think it is genius. There are some who consider IDM to be just random noises. And there are others who feel that it is the true work of a musical genius.

                        Beat, Rhythm, Time Signitures, all that junk are western ideas. There are no rules to music, just rules for genres.

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                        • TehWhack
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 766

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jewpinthethird
                          Okay, music is a form of art. And in art, there are no rules. Sure, there are rules that you constrain yourself to when you choose to work under a specific genre or media, but that is different.

                          There are those that consider abstarct art...not to be art at all. And there are others who think it is genius. There are some who consider IDM to be just random noises. And there are others who feel that it is the true work of a musical genius.

                          Beat, Rhythm, Time Signitures, all that junk are western ideas. There are no rules to music, just rules for genres.
                          Again, exceptions. -_- You are partially correct though, It's more like there's rules for music for genres. There are genres that are meant to sound out of the ordinary like abstract art.

                          Just one thing..... where the HELL did you get "Beat, Rhythm, Time Signitures, all that junk are western ideas." ? They're central Europe's ideas.
                          Oh hay I used to play ITG

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                          • Moogy
                            嗚呼
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 10303

                            #28
                            Central Europe = Western
                            Asia = Eastern

                            Oh, and all nonsynthesized music changes BPM constantly. It's impossible for a human to stay at one perfect BPM. That's why classical DWIs are so offbeat.
                            Plz visit my blog

                            ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

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                            • TehWhack
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 766

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Moogy
                              Central Europe = Western
                              Asia = Eastern

                              Oh, and all nonsynthesized music changes BPM constantly. It's impossible for a human to stay at one perfect BPM. That's why classical DWIs are so offbeat.
                              Moogy, Western is North America
                              Oh hay I used to play ITG

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                              • VxDx
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2003
                                • 1871

                                #30
                                That song is crap for stepfiling. I don't care how good you are or how well you can make steps for it, it won't be fun. It has no rhythm.

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