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  • ledwix
    Giant Pi Operator
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Mar 2006
    • 2878

    #16
    Re: So...?

    first of all, he had FAR less skill when the tournament started. skill tokens weren't even around when the tournament started, so i don't see how that's relevant. secondly, you can have "tons of skill tokens," but that has much more to do with the battle between will power and laziness than it does with skill. a person can get 60 tokens and still not be that good, since 20 of them are too hard to get for that person, or something.

    and as said before, overall means nothing. do you think lump should have been in expert last time, since he was top 10 overall? no, that wouldn't be fair, since he would have gotten knocked out immediately in such a division.

    and i'm looking forward to the 3rd tournament (and actually playing FFR again)

    done.

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    • Tasselfoot
      Retired BOSS
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jul 2003
      • 25185

      #17
      Re: So...?

      generally, the people who win beginner are people who haven't played the game much at all when the tournament starts. the tournament then gets them excited and involved with the game, so they gain skill. then, over the 10 weeks of the tournament (yes, they last about 2 1/2 months if you make it to the finals), they get better and better and better. usually similar with intermediate, only they had to have a bit of skill to start, but then got lots lots better at the end.

      even advanced is usually won by someone who is really really good, but just doesn't play super hardcore. because if they did, they'd have gotten into expert.

      so, basically, the tournaments are almost always skewed towards those who have underachieved before the tournament starts. but, isn't that always the case in handicapped tournaments, regardless of sport? and yes, this is handicapped, since the this doesn't happen in expert... just the 3 "lesser" divisions.



      oh yea... important stuff....
      1. tournament signups will start TOMORROW. i will make a thread and news post about it
      2. Sprite- will be running it, not me. I'll be around to assist, aid, and give advice... as well as make any final decisions on things that are important enough to need my input. Sprite will handle the day-to-day stuff, the posts, deciding who is in what division, what songs will be played, handling results, etc etc etc. I'll be playing.
      3. prizes will be sweet. and i guarantee to deliver on them, even if i have to acquire and ship them to the winners myself.

      stay tuned.
      RIP

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      • hoochan
        woah shrooms
        • Nov 2005
        • 3838

        #18
        Re: So...?

        start it not soon please

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        • daringdaniel1111
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2006
          • 617

          #19
          Re: So...?

          Originally posted by Tasselfoot
          generally, the people who win beginner are people who haven't played the game much at all when the tournament starts. the tournament then gets them excited and involved with the game, so they gain skill. then, over the 10 weeks of the tournament (yes, they last about 2 1/2 months if you make it to the finals), they get better and better and better. usually similar with intermediate, only they had to have a bit of skill to start, but then got lots lots better at the end.

          even advanced is usually won by someone who is really really good, but just doesn't play super hardcore. because if they did, they'd have gotten into expert.

          so, basically, the tournaments are almost always skewed towards those who have underachieved before the tournament starts. but, isn't that always the case in handicapped tournaments, regardless of sport? and yes, this is handicapped, since the this doesn't happen in expert... just the 3 "lesser" divisions.



          oh yea... important stuff....
          1. tournament signups will start TOMORROW. i will make a thread and news post about it
          2. Sprite- will be running it, not me. I'll be around to assist, aid, and give advice... as well as make any final decisions on things that are important enough to need my input. Sprite will handle the day-to-day stuff, the posts, deciding who is in what division, what songs will be played, handling results, etc etc etc. I'll be playing.
          3. prizes will be sweet. and i guarantee to deliver on them, even if i have to acquire and ship them to the winners myself.

          stay tuned.

          That is great news. I can't wait. Hopefully I will make it past the third round this time.




          Public AAAs: 229
          Total AAAs: 260
          Fc's: 363
          Latest AAA: Toph's OP
          Best AAA: Toph's OP
          Avg Rank: 67
          Tier Points:439 (408 + 31 for 264 AAAs)
          Style: Spread

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          • ledwix
            Giant Pi Operator
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2006
            • 2878

            #20
            Re: So...?

            ^__^ awesome news. yeah, i never got to play in advanced or intermediate or beginner ><

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            • foilman8805
              smoke wheat hail satin
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2006
              • 5704

              #21
              Re: So...?

              what category would an average rank of 630 put me in?

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              • freakysnots
                八一
                • Aug 2004
                • 2904

                #22
                Re: So...?

                Reg.

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                • foilman8805
                  smoke wheat hail satin
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 5704

                  #23
                  Re: So...?

                  Originally posted by freakysnots
                  Reg.
                  intermediate?

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                  • Tasselfoot
                    Retired BOSS
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 25185

                    #24
                    Re: So...?

                    based on your levelrank, i'd guess intermediate. but, really, it depends on how many people we get, what their distribution of skills are.... clearly, beginner will have the most users, with it getting less and less as you go up to expert, which will likely only have 32 or so at the most. but, i'd guess intermediate.

                    last tournament we had over 1000 people sign up. i'm guessing we'll have a similar number this time. and at least half the signups will be beginner. 500 or so. basically, if you have a single tier point, you'll be at least intermediate.

                    so we'll be looking at tier point lists for each person in addition to their levelrank.php should give us a better ability to judge skill. will know number of AAAs, tier points, average rank, etc etc.

                    actually, i'm going to ask LD to see if he can whip up a seperate page that'll make life even easier... something that'll display tier points, AAAs, average rank, overall rank, and top10 scores that aren't AAAs. then if we need to examine further, we can go straight into levelrank or tier point list.
                    RIP

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                    • foilman8805
                      smoke wheat hail satin
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 5704

                      #25
                      Re: So...?

                      okay cool.

                      i have a few more questions, but i'll wait until you get things situated and start a thread.

                      thanks, Tass.

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                      • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                        Threat Emulation
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • May 2004
                        • 5184

                        #26
                        Re: So...?

                        This will be pretty cool... I just hope that I'm in expert so that I will be considered that good, yet, I hope that I'm just below that so that I have a chance to win it... Either way, it should be fun.

                        Originally posted by Lightdarkness
                        I'm light f**king darkness

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                        • KH Luxord
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 409

                          #27
                          Re: So...?

                          Tass,

                          When will the tournament start? And in which forum will it be?


                          Most Recent AAA: Snowflakes
                          Most Recent FC: Party 4 U v3
                          Best FC: The Brain of the Moon


                          Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                          I will come to your house and take a crap on your pillow if you submit an hour long song to me.

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                          • daringdaniel1111
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 617

                            #28
                            Re: So...?

                            Originally posted by KH Luxord
                            Tass,

                            When will the tournament start? And in which forum will it be?
                            It would most likely be in the brag board just like the last tournament.




                            Public AAAs: 229
                            Total AAAs: 260
                            Fc's: 363
                            Latest AAA: Toph's OP
                            Best AAA: Toph's OP
                            Avg Rank: 67
                            Tier Points:439 (408 + 31 for 264 AAAs)
                            Style: Spread

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                            • Tasselfoot
                              Retired BOSS
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 25185

                              #29
                              Re: So...?

                              it'll be in ffr events. as that IS the place for tournaments... official ones. and this is an ffr event.

                              if not there, then the tournaments subforum. brag board is 3rd on that list of places to have it. the other 2 forums just didn't exist yet last tournament.
                              RIP

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                              • KH Luxord
                                FFR Player
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 409

                                #30
                                Re: So...?

                                I see. And, when will it start? And will there be an announcement on the FFR main page about the tournament? Because I don't remember seeing one around the beginning of the 2nd one, unless the 2nd one started before I joined FFR.


                                Most Recent AAA: Snowflakes
                                Most Recent FC: Party 4 U v3
                                Best FC: The Brain of the Moon


                                Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                                I will come to your house and take a crap on your pillow if you submit an hour long song to me.

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