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  • BzT
    Chronic Bud Toker
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2006
    • 940

    #1

    Avmisses

    y are they so bad on 2.0X
    i playing BB Evolution and got

    18-29-29-29

    is it only with speedmods or whats up with this lol



  • rshadow8888
    FFR's Buizel
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2005
    • 3120

    #2
    Re: Avmisses

    Originally posted by bzt
    y are they so bad on 2.0X
    i playing BB Evolution and got

    18-29-29-29

    is it only with speedmods or whats up with this lol
    Speedmods trick you into hitting the jacks more accurately, thus getting avmisses. I had 62 of them on BB revenge. I think I had...
    (40 - 62 - 62 - 64)

    I got 2 boos cause I suck

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    • makdaddy
      FFR Veteran
      • Mar 2003
      • 1688

      #3
      Re: Avmisses

      Originally posted by rshadow8888
      Speedmods trick you into hitting the jacks more accurately, thus getting avmisses. I had 62 of them on BB revenge. I think I had...
      (40 - 62 - 62 - 64)

      I got 2 boos cause I suck
      lawlz

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      • BzT
        Chronic Bud Toker
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2006
        • 940

        #4
        Re: Avmisses

        wtf causes them for real



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        • ledwix
          Giant Pi Operator
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 2878

          #5
          Re: Avmisses

          rshadow answered already. pretty obviously it tricks you into thinking notes are farther apart than they actually are.

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          • sente3
            a brew
            • Feb 2005
            • 703

            #6
            Re: Avmisses

            http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hlight=Framers

            This might help explain it.

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            • Kotarouchan
              I only need 3 seconds :)
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Feb 2005
              • 2030

              #7
              Re: Avmisses

              bzt, it's a parallax. Just because it looks like you're hitting the arrow perfectly, for what you know, it could be a small frame mess up and you'll hit it late enough for the avg-miss

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              • rshadow8888
                FFR's Buizel
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 3120

                #8
                Re: Avmisses

                Originally posted by dore
                The first part to understanding an avmiss is that you must realize that the second arrow takes precedence over the first arrow in the FFR engine. FFR runs on 30 frames per second, so one frame is 1/30s or .033s, which is rather wide for a music game.

                Now, the judgement window goes as such: [a][g][p][p][p][g][weird stuff]. I'll ignore that last frame in the next part.

                Now, an avmiss occurs when you hit an arrow inside its timing window but also in another arrow's timing window, you get an average for the second arrow and the first arrow gets completely ignored, thus giving you a miss. To visualize:
                [a][g][p][p][p][g]
                ................[a][g][p][p][p][g]
                This is what a 4-framer looks like. If you were to try to hit the first arrow on the red frame (the frame that the arrow actually appears onscreen), then the game will ignore the first arrow and give you the average for the second arrow, while the first arrow scrolls off the screen as a miss.
                Dore explained it quite well.

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