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  • Justice Beloved
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 58

    #1

    AAA bar.....

    I was reading through the R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 thread and came across this section here:

    Originally posted by jimerax
    MAX possible score for unPFC'able 15 songs (analyzed by Shashakiro)
    ----------------------------------------------
    100 Bar Blackout: 2 goods
    Final Fantasy 7 Battle: 1 good
    Party 4u - HolyNightRemix V2: 2 goods
    Chrono Trigger: 637 perfects, 8 goods, 8 misses[*]
    Gradeus: 2 goods
    The Games We Played, Part 1: 1 good
    Nova Pulser: 7 goods
    Hellbeat: 1 good
    Caprice: 3 goods
    Crowdpleaser: 16 goods 3 averages
    RunnyMorning (SGX MIX): 5 goods
    Piano Etude (Demon Fire): 12 goods
    Molto Vivace: 14 goods
    Grand Gallop Chromatique: 37 goods
    One Minute Waltz: 7 goods
    Vertex BETA vrofl: mystery
    If these songs really are impossible to AAA, why does the maximum possible AAAs in the AAA bar in each person's profile match the number of FCable songs, assuming all songs can be FCed? I know FF7 and Chrono Trigger are gone, meaning all songs should be possible to FC, but they're not all possible to AAA..... doesn't this mean the AAA bar will never hit the max? The max should be the actual max..... not the ideal max.

    Also, why are these songs impossible to AAA? Is it really just because of jacks? It seems like somebody could come around and hit those jacks....
  • Adamaja456
    Absurd
    • Dec 2006
    • 6433

    #2
    Re: AAA bar.....

    too lazy to explain the obvious, hopefully someone else does


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    • spinal_compression
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2005
      • 3325

      #3
      Re: AAA bar.....

      I believe the AAA bar checks for rank 1 on any given song.

      You can't hit those jacks perfectly because the frames overlap making you hit both arrows with one keytap.

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      • dashoe93
        Alphabet Crowd
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Nov 2005
        • 2950

        #4
        Re: AAA bar.....

        Originally posted by Justice Beloved
        Also, why are these songs impossible to AAA? Is it really just because of jacks? It seems like somebody could come around and hit those jacks....
        the jacks are either 2-1 framers and cant both be hit perfects. 2 framer i believe is a good and perfect and 1 framer is an average and perfect. someone correct me if im wrong.

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        • DarkbearX
          Shimose
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Feb 2006
          • 1995

          #5
          Re: AAA bar.....

          Originally posted by spinal_compression
          I believe the AAA bar checks for rank 1 on any given song.
          This is true, mainly because it's a lot easier on the programmers to count rank 1 as 'AAAs' than actual AAAs

          Originally posted by dashoe93
          the jacks are either 2-1 framers and cant both be hit perfects. 2 framer i believe is a good and perfect and 1 framer is an average and perfect. someone correct me if im wrong.
          Also, confirming this.

          2framers = 1 good, 1 perfect
          1framers = 1 average, 1 perfect (I think this only shows up in CP, though =/)

          Edit: And obvious classical songs have 1framers too I believe.
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          • Justice Beloved
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 58

            #6
            Re: AAA bar.....

            Originally posted by spinal_compression
            I believe the AAA bar checks for rank 1 on any given song.
            Oh, okay. Then AAA is sort of a weird thing to call that gauge, but whatever, why split hairs, I guess.

            Originally posted by spinal_compression
            You can't hit those jacks perfectly because the frames overlap making you hit both arrows with one keytap.
            Is that so? That's a shame.... but thanks for all the information.

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            • freakysnots
              八一
              • Aug 2004
              • 2904

              #7
              Re: AAA bar.....

              Unless you hit a secret arrow that gives you a high score but turns your overall score back in the billions

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              • rshadow8888
                FFR's Buizel
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 3120

                #8
                Re: AAA bar.....

                Originally posted by DarkbearX
                Edit: And obvious classical songs have 1framers too I believe.
                Oddly enough, None of them do. They are 2+ framers

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                • Tasselfoot
                  Retired BOSS
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 25185

                  #9
                  Re: AAA bar.....

                  we specifically coded those bars so that a perfect score on a song where a AAA is not the perfect score will still count as a AAA.

                  if that makes sense.
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                  • KA0Z R4VR
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 287

                    #10
                    Re: AAA bar.....

                    so tassel means, altho getting 3 goods on Caprice is not a AAA, since the higest possible score is 3 goods with perfect timing it will still count as a AAA. :]
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                    • rshadow8888
                      FFR's Buizel
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3120

                      #11
                      Re: AAA bar.....

                      Originally posted by KA0Z R4VR
                      so tassel means, altho getting 3 goods on Caprice is not a AAA, since the higest possible score is 3 goods with perfect timing it will still count as a AAA. :]
                      AAA =/= all perfects
                      AAA === Max possible score on a song

                      This means the 3 goods on Caprice is an AAA.

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                      • FrenzyMidget
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1421

                        #12
                        Re: AAA bar.....

                        Ironically I just got the AAA for those who want to see: it indeed increased my AAA count from 74 to 75




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                        • Zamiax
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 231

                          #13
                          Re: AAA bar.....

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                          • Fantasticone
                            D7 Elite Keymasher
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 6003

                            #14
                            Re: AAA bar.....

                            Wow, 37 goods on GGC is a AAA. talk about hard as ****s lol.

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                            • rednanaki
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                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 604

                              #15
                              Re: AAA bar.....

                              AAA means maximum possible score. Those songs are not FPC (full perfect combo)-able. Every song is AAA-able, because every song has a maximum possible score.



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