Very fast BPM BS

[RageVI]

Okay... this is something that never fails to irk me.

Extremely high BPMs in songs

People are going "OMG THIS SONG IS FSAT!!!!121" to some songs that are fast (like 175+ish), but dozens of times I always hear someone one-up that person by saying "pfft, that's slow, I have a song that goes 500 bpm". In fact when I made uber rave over a year ago I tell someone "I'm making a fast song"... they ask me its BPM, and I reply 175, which IS what it is. "Oh that's okay" they say "800 BPM is faster" they say...

Sure one can notch up the BPM to 500+, but they are still free to space out the notes as much as they like...which in my opinion just makes the BPM truly lower.

Unless the songs really sound like this...

I present to you..in good humor...Uber Rave in 450BPM

http://www.ragevi.com/450BPM_uber_rave.mp3

And how much time does it take to turn up the BPM in a music program? Under a minute...

OMFG Impressive huh? Unless those insanely-high BPM songs sound like that, I think it's just BS

Hell if I made a 999 BPM song, would that make me God?

*EDIT: Sorry if my thoughts aren't layed out too neatly. When it's something that annoys me I generally don't care

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Nice

[aperson]

Yes it often pisses me off when people make something WITH THE FRUITY TEMPO METER SET AT 999 OMG. and say the song is 999bpm. Anything over about 350 or so bpm sounds like a fucking drill.

[dancingmaniac3]

i noticed...that i always hear that "ahh thats nothing. i can AAAAAAAAAA a 23578298579847.1 bpm song" (sarcasm) from noobs, or from ppl who can't play and try to act cool about it. honestly, max300 for ex., is a sorta fast bpm. i mean its not the speed of light, but its not as slow as turtles. 175 is avg, not too fast not too slow.

[linus]

people think that is slow because they are effected by sm.
175 bpm scroll speed is slow, most people play it on 3x.
then they take a mistake..... 175x3=525 bpm.....
in fact, 525 is just a scroll speed, not bpm..............

[Varia]

Yeah, really high BPM's for no real purpose are pretty uncalled for. But if you are a newb at Fruity Loops, it helps you space notes out. Speaking of FL, the only cool insanely high BPM song I have ever heard is on there. Pilchard - New Fruity.

[Nima]

umm there are songs over 350 bpm that sound good... ie. fotbb and fotbb rock?

[QreepyBORIS]

Oh...I already made a 450 BPM mix of uberrave. Its just really high-toned. Its like, 58 or 59 seconds long (not 450 on the dot).

[VxDx]

The thing is, a lot of people don't understand that beats per minute should be just that, beats. It's no problem in SM to multiply your real BPM by 2 or 4 and just make your 16ths into 8th and your 8ths into 4ths, but realistically all that does is just makes all the note colors look the same and the scroll speed automatically higher.

In DDR at least, where they actually do correct BPMs, higher is generally harder, ie max 300 = 300bpm as opposed to an average of 150, but max 300 could be 150 and just have tighter spacing, but then the scroll speed wouldn't be automatically as high, which a lot of new players can't handle.

BPM really has no measure on "difficulty" unless it's paired with a note measure (ie 16th notes at 300 bpm) which even then isn't a good measure of difficulty.

[Moogy]

This gives me an idea... UBER RAVE 300

[Arch0wl]

umm there are songs over 350 bpm that sound good... ie. fotbb and fotbb rock?

Um, those songs are really half their BPM on stepmania. I doubled it to show their real speed.

Basically, read what VxDx said.

[RageVI]

I think you're taking what I said the wrong way. I speak of the music in itself, but perhaps it's my fault for posting in the FFR General forum and not a more proper forum

But then again, songs with that high of a BPM still come to me as annoying and misleading.

[Alkaiser88]

If you were god then everyone would start saying "OH MY FUCKING RAGEVI!!!"

[Brainmaster07]

The first DWI I ever made: 800 bpm. Why? Because once I got the rythem down, I didn't think in time '1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4,' I just went '1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,' so the bpm was 4 times as large as it should have been :P.

If I had a nickle for every time some one messed up bpm with arrow speed, I'd be a very rich man.

[Yanah_God]

i'm not gonna bother to read all your posts cause I'm lazy and i just woke up, so i'm just gonna say i like 300+ BPM songs because the arrows go fast, not because I want more arrows

It's easier to his the arrows if I can't tell which one is which

*edit after listening to uber 450*

i just realized I mean I like STEPFILES with high BPMs