Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

[dore]

I know the traditional definition of "doubles setup" where someone uses multiple keys for the same direction so that jacks become trills and trills beome rolls. However, I want clarification on two situations that have came to mind.

1. Is using multiple fingers on the same key considered cheating? For example, on the ending of AIM Anthem, where it is just straight jacks with no jumps in them, if I were to use the arrow keys but use both my left hand and right hand to hit the same button on my keyboard and turn it into a trill, would that be cheating (though for me the point is moot because I can't combo that far)?

2. Is using more than 4 keys cheating, as long as they are not used in the same pattern? Say I wanted to switch from spread to index (from qw89 to the arrow keys) in the middle of a song, would that be considered cheating, and in the same way, would hotkeying more than 4 keys but never using more than 4 at a time be cheating?

[Shashakiro]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

It's all really subjective, except using 8 fingers on 8 keys.

I personally am pretty light on what I consider double setup...others aren't. So there's no "real" answer...besides, it's not like FFR scores that are found to be double setup are going to be deleted.

[dore]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

Okay, thanks.

[stlunatic0124]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

Just to make it clear, shash uses down, left, 8, and 6 for spread, then moves his pointer finger down to 2 for the left-down trill in fotbb. So technically, that's double. I would do the same thing if I played spread but I use 4-finger arrow keys on my laptop. So i just move my pointer finger to the down arrow then transition back to 4-finger normally.

ps all these new blood phenoms who are almost hitting the jacks in crowdpleaser are PROBABLY using more than 4 fingers.

[zorsy]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

lol instead of multiple fingers... multiple players??? each person uses...:
-arrow keys
-number keys
-mouse (not that effective)
-joystick

so then you won't be the only one tired when it comes to fotbb...

haha gl

[Tasselfoot]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

luna: they are. i've talked to a few of them in MP.

[talisman]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

as long as not more than one button corresponding to the same arrow is being hit, then it doesn't matter.

[ieatyourlvllol]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

besides, it's not like FFR scores that are found to be double setup are going to be deleted.

So does that mean people can cheat their way through songs like OMW and GGC and have a permanent pseudo-highscore? Of course, I'm speaking of significant scores that most players would have virtually no chance of getting ...

I'm assuming you know the person who is implied. I'll not mention any names...

[Shashakiro]

Re: Requesting Clarification of Doubles setup

So does that mean people can cheat their way through songs like OMW and GGC and have a permanent pseudo-highscore? Of course, I'm speaking of significant scores that most players would have virtually no chance of getting ...

It's so hard to get good scores on those songs even with double setup that I doubt it'd be a problem.

I'm assuming you know the person who is implied. I'll not mention any names...

Don't actually know who, unless you mean that Dag12 guy or whatever...and his scores are all gonna get deleted anyway, since he's obviously flat-out hacking.