What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

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  • jacobvl39
    Difficulty Consultant
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2021
    • 73

    #1

    What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

    I was curious about this so I went and crunched some numbers. Turns out there's a lot of scoring data available on the internet archive for 2008, but not so much for earlier years, so we'll have to start at 2008. Here was my methodology:

    1. Find all songs released prior to 2008 that are currently rated above 70 difficulty

    2. For each song, find the leaderboards on the internet archive, paste them into a spreadsheet and calculate "AAA equivalency" based on the raw scores

    3. Write a Python script to pull in the data and calculate skill ratings for each player

    Here is the theoretical 2008 leaderboard I came up with:

    Top players:
    1. MrRubix 87.5494
    2. -Laggy- 85.8754
    3. samtorx 85.6778
    4. darkshark 85.1022
    5. ~Zero~ 83.6960
    6. EAGAMES 83.3831
    7. ieatyourlvllol 83.2844
    8. AOD_ELEMENT 82.5830
    9. Shashakiro 82.0424
    10. Xiaounlimited 81.6932
    11. smartdude1212 81.4742
    12. jimerax 81.3495
    13. XXXsmittyXXX 80.9958
    14. gameboy42690 80.8325
    15. Sprite- 80.8097
    16. Izzy 80.5302
    17. gnr61 80.1907
    18. TC_Halogen 79.8391
    19. [HectoGtzMX] 79.5178
    20. cetaka 79.3986
    21. sc979 78.7945
    22. [TeRa] 78.7573
    23. Phynx 78.5989
    24. shadow 1800 78.5095
    25. HighAndr0id 78.2847
    26. Dynam0 78.0533
    27. NekoGon 77.9652
    28. XPYRYMYNT 77.9367
    29. Bahamut-X 77.8845
    30. OnDaJohn 77.8181
    31. HammyMcSquirrel 77.7929
    32. Fantasticone 77.6702
    33. Lordd_Magus 77.5471
    34. faynt 77.5423
    35. behanjc 77.3470
    36. powerfull 77.2047
    37. lxDestinyxl 77.1319
    38. samurai7694 77.0424
    39. Loot You 77.0194
    40. omgitznpv 76.7846
    41. Exag0n 76.7199
    42. Popmeister 76.6075
    43. Flaming_Dingleberry 76.5599
    44. MasterGTS 76.4062
    45. dag12 76.2414
    46. MP3 player 76.1281
    47. Xx{Midday}xX 75.7020
    48. scottish 75.5869
    49. Oni-Paranoia 75.4359
    50. L_eMo_N 75.4169


    There are some major limitations to this approach. The biggest one is the use of combo scoring. I tried to calculate "raw goods" by subtracting the actual score from the maximum possible score and diving by 275, but this does not give the true number of raw goods since any combo breaker was penalized much more heavily than it is now. This means there are probably a lot of good non-FC scores that aren't being factored in to this ranking.

    Another limitation is that I only included files rated 70+. If any players had files below 70 in their top 15, these scores are not contributing to their skill rating. I did it this way because it would have been too time-consuming to include lower difficulty files. This is most likely not a big deal, since all players in the top 50 are above level 75, so sub-70 scores are probably won't much of a difference in their skill ratings.

    Finally, the song leaderboard snapshots came from different times in 2008, based on what was available on the archives. This means the list is not a true snapshot of what the leaderboards would have looked like at any particular time and is just an approximation of what it would have tended to look like throughout 2008.


    EDIT:

    I managed to find enough archived scores to put together an approximate leaderboard for 2009:

    Top players:
    1. EAGAMES 92.5071
    2. MrRubix 91.9786
    3. samtorx 91.8526
    4. AOD_ELEMENT 90.1034
    5. DossarLX ODI 89.7245
    6. leonid 89.4373
    7. ~Zero~ 88.7493
    8. -Laggy- 88.6535
    9. NekoGon 88.5334
    10. TC_Halogen 87.8383
    11. Sprite- 87.8091
    12. Shashakiro 87.6124
    13. Phynx 86.9098
    14. smartdude1212 86.7467
    15. Bluearrowll 86.3433
    16. [TeRa] 86.2869
    17. gnr61 85.9986
    18. roundb0x 85.9195
    19. samurai7694 85.9174
    20. gameboy42690 85.5503
    21. ieatyourlvllol 85.5354
    22. darkshark 85.5210
    23. omgitznpv 85.2524
    24. sc979 85.1048
    25. i love you 84.9771
    26. One Winged Angel 84.5053
    27. BigBoss37 84.3812
    28. Moonlight_X 84.2411
    29. cetaka 84.2369
    30. behanjc 84.1496
    31. XXXsmittyXXX 84.0927
    32. HammyMcSquirrel 84.0056
    33. Izzy 83.7579
    34. jimerax 83.7531
    35. shadow 1800 83.6472
    36. dood gone krazee 83.5324
    37. Xiaounlimited 83.4836
    38. HighAndr0id 83.3962
    39. roundbox 83.1903
    40. MasterGTS 83.1086
    41. Loot You 83.0038
    42. powerfull 82.1878
    43. xTitan69x 82.1745
    44. Xx{Midday}xX 81.9385
    45. Zap_Track 81.9310
    46. TK_unreal 81.8333
    47. irionman 81.8281
    48. MP3 player 81.8056
    49. Fantasticone 81.7257
    50. omega220 81.7156
    Last edited by jacobvl39; 03-7-2026, 04:26 PM.
  • T-Force
    Your world ends with you
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2007
    • 4753

    #2
    Re: What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

    Now this. This is good content.
    Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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    • blindreper1179
      Vice President Of TGB
      • Jun 2006
      • 5900

      #3
      Re: What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

      So many I miss seeing on the daily. ��
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      • Zyxel
        Event Staff
        Event Staff
        • Feb 2023
        • 191

        #4
        Re: What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

        id love to see an "FFR Iceberg" deep dive forum post or something to that effect, there is so much history on this site that i have no clue of as a newhead

        fun post!

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        • benguino
          Kawaii Desu Ne?
          • Dec 2007
          • 4185

          #5
          Re: What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

          Very cool to see!

          Originally posted by Zyxel
          id love to see an "FFR Iceberg" deep dive forum post or something to that effect, there is so much history on this site that i have no clue of as a newhead

          fun post!
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          • kmay
            Don't forget me
            • Jan 2007
            • 6511

            #6
            Re: What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

            This is really cool to see! Nice work!

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            • icontrolyourworld
              Enjoy life!
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Oct 2007
              • 4192

              #7
              Re: What if FFR had skill rating in 2008?

              harder maps just weren't in the game back then x) we got rato and death piano then do i smile, good ol days!

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