Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

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  • xXOpkillerXx
    Forever OP
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2008
    • 4207

    #16
    Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

    Tbqh, this saddens me quite a bit. Sounds like 1-way cooperation between the stepartist, who dedicated significant effort to help provide a D8 finals chart, and staff, who then did what they wanted with said chart on a vote based off of what, 15 or so people?

    Really seems like the least that could've been done is let Hi19's opinion on the matter be heard by staff. It's not bias, it's respecting one of the greatest stepartists FFR has had, who's put in extra effort when asked to do so.

    EDIT: Unless somehow someone manages to get any equiv from it (which literally only includes Kane mayyybe in the foreseeable future), there's absolutely no objective issue in keeping the file public. Especially when the stepartist didn't give consent for it.
    Last edited by xXOpkillerXx; 09-16-2022, 09:12 PM.

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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #17
      Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

      To be clear, nobody would have even had to ask me what I preferred for the file, because I made it VERY clear from the start in my submission that I wanted it to be a public file:
      https://www.flashflashrevolution.com.../batch/?id=718
      The words "token," "secret," and "purchased" are very intentionally missing from that page.
      Last edited by hi19hi19; 09-16-2022, 10:19 PM.


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      • Josemba
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        • Nov 2011
        • 256

        #18
        Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

        #FreeHeartbreakFurryFandom

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        • Velocity
          Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Administrator
          • Jul 2007
          • 1817

          #19
          Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          To be clear, nobody would have even had to ask me what I preferred for the file, because I made it VERY clear from the start in my submission that I wanted it to be a public file:
          https://www.flashflashrevolution.com.../batch/?id=718
          The words "token," "secret," and "purchased" are very intentionally missing from that page.
          The tags you selected wasn't something that was mentioned during our staff meeting which was a failure on our part. Given that you don't want the file locked behind a token I'll converse with staff about what to do given as a token won't be an option.

          For the time being I'll remove mention of the HFF changes from the post.

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          • gold stinger
            Signature Extraordinare~~
            Event Staff
            Game Manager
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jan 2007
            • 6428

            #20
            Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

            The other option is to remove the song completely, which seems like that might be a viable option if the file can't be used as a token.
            Originally posted by YoshL
            butts.



            - Tosh 2014






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            • hi19hi19
              lol happy
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Oct 2005
              • 12194

              #21
              Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

              Originally posted by Velocity
              The tags you selected wasn't something that was mentioned during our staff meeting which was a failure on our part. Given that you don't want the file locked behind a token I'll converse with staff about what to do given as a token won't be an option.

              For the time being I'll remove mention of the HFF changes from the post.
              Thank you for at least considering. If the file is too hard to leave ranked I completely understand that - I'm not blind that it's an incredible outlier.
              I was hoping to inspire people to create files to bridge the gap as I am certain someday HFF will be within the top players grasps, but until then, leaving it public at 0 difficulty would be a great compromise.
              I know it's objectively not a bad file technically and I personally really enjoy playing and seeing others play it on downrates. I just... want more than a few dozen people to be able to experience it.


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              • Velocity
                Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Administrator
                • Jul 2007
                • 1817

                #22
                Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                Originally posted by hi19hi19
                Thank you for at least considering. If the file is too hard to leave ranked I completely understand that - I'm not blind that it's an incredible outlier.
                I was hoping to inspire people to create files to bridge the gap as I am certain someday HFF will be within the top players grasps, but until then, leaving it public at 0 difficulty would be a great compromise.
                I know it's objectively not a bad file technically and I personally really enjoy playing and seeing others play it on downrates. I just... want more than a few dozen people to be able to experience it.
                For myself I'd rather the file stay playable as is, as I personally enjoy the file.
                It's really just been the difficulty and the boundary breaking nature of it that has been really contentious.

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                • loftyb
                  Dump Judge
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 118

                  #23
                  Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                  Won’t be when dump files are added to the game

                  Edit: Just use one of those subs as D8 token.
                  Last edited by loftyb; 09-17-2022, 06:49 AM.
                  ~~Sexy~~Sassy~~Skilled~~

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                  • XelNya
                    [Nobody liked that.]
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 3368

                    #24
                    Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                    Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                    If I were you I'd be honored that people went up to me to try and design a novelty file that breaks the barriers of comfort FFR has been constrained to for so long. It's sad to read this from a well known and respected stepartist. While I understand that some people do not like their file being rewards for tokens (and that the batch's checkboxes for release types should be respected), I can't help but feel like it's a good step in the direction of encouraging more top end players to participate on FFR and have their own, non-trivial achievements to go for.

                    Your file may not have been the greatest 120 there could ever be, but I'd be very damn surprised if even a handful of other stepartists could have managed to pull off a chart of this difficulty that is actually thought through. Kudos to you cornman, and I hope this doesn't deter you from contributing more awesome content to this game.
                    How do you have so much brain-rot you thought this was a good post, way to completely miss the point.

                    I do get what Goldstinger is saying, but yeah, the requests on submission should be respected. If I saw a song of mine go into an antipa token, and my request to remove that requirement weren't followed, FFR would be removing it and I'd resub it till it was put in correctly. I don't even want antipa locks off my files. I make this pretty clear.

                    Originally posted by gold stinger
                    The other option is to remove the song completely, which seems like that might be a viable option if the file can't be used as a token.
                    I feel like that's not even in the ball park, or drug inspired trip of how that should work.

                    You'd be better off giving it the Legacy check-box, and outside of level ranking.
                    Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun beep

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                    • ToonE156
                      D7 Elite Keymasher
                      • Jul 2021
                      • 652

                      #25
                      Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                      Originally posted by XelNya
                      How do you have so much brain-rot you thought this was a good post, way to completely miss the point.
                      dam that's a bit much, i agree OP did miss the point extremely hard but jesus dude
                      dont trust this user at all --------> https://www.twitch.tv/toone156
                      Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                      If accuracy is not your middle name, my balls smell like lavender and honey.


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                      • icontrolyourworld
                        Enjoy life!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4192

                        #26
                        Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                        If I may pitch my 2 cents for hi19's map, please be respectful to the preference of keeping his map public

                        Looking forward to the leader board changes coming up in October, good luck everyone!

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                        • T-Force
                          Your world ends with you
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 4753

                          #27
                          Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                          Aight, tone it down. No need for that level of vitriol towards others.
                          Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                          • XelNya
                            [Nobody liked that.]
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3368

                            #28
                            Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                            Originally posted by ToonE156
                            dam that's a bit much, i agree OP did miss the point extremely hard but jesus dude
                            I've said it before, I'll say it again. There's a report button. Use it.

                            Originally posted by T-Force
                            Aight, tone it down. No need for that level of vitriol towards others.
                            Man, the pillow I sleep on at night is not nearly as soft as you are. And I paid extra for the comfy one.
                            Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun beep

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                            • T-Force
                              Your world ends with you
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 4753

                              #29
                              Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              I've said it before, I'll say it again. There's a report button. Use it.
                              Someone already did. Ergo why I made my post.

                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              Man, the pillow I sleep on at night is not nearly as soft as you are. And I paid extra for the comfy one.
                              Yes, I want to make sure this thread doesn't devolve into name-calling, flame-baiting, and trolling. Perish the thought I put some effort into attempting to curtail it early, amirite?
                              Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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                              • ToonE156
                                D7 Elite Keymasher
                                • Jul 2021
                                • 652

                                #30
                                Re: Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

                                Originally posted by XelNya
                                I've said it before, I'll say it again. There's a report button. Use
                                nah, someone beat me to it and I lazy

                                Back on topic kinda: o7 to all the people who won't be in D7 or D8 anymore
                                Last edited by ToonE156; 09-17-2022, 04:19 PM.
                                dont trust this user at all --------> https://www.twitch.tv/toone156
                                Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                                If accuracy is not your middle name, my balls smell like lavender and honey.


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