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  • Candor
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2011
    • 266

    #1

    SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

    Stepmania Guidelines

    Me, guil, Eze, Censorx, and a few others assembled this over the course of about a month.
    I hope this guideline will prove useful to FFR players who want to try out SM but don't know where to begin, and for SM players to set new goals for themselves.
    This list is by no means exhaustive, and anyone can help in adding new entries.
    Hope you guys like it <3


    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1381977525



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    Last edited by Candor; 05-18-2015, 01:31 PM.
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  • Guilhermeziat
    Banned
    • Aug 2013
    • 297

    #2
    Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

    Please dont simply shit on it btw, it's free to edit for a reason.

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    • ilikexd
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2006
      • 3207

      #3
      Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

      The difficulties seem consistently underrated. For example TOML AA is about low D6, not low d5. Also because of how skillsets differ, it's not significant to go beyond low, mid, and high into factors of .05 -- they can't be meaningfully compared.

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      • Guest15937
        One-handed elite
        • May 2008
        • 1464

        #4
        Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

        Will this ever include passes or AAA's as well as just AAs?

        Edit: just saw the disclaimer, I'm a freaking idiot
        Last edited by Guest15937; 04-12-2015, 12:41 AM.
        The renegade has betrayed me.

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        • Ziemniax
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2014
          • 169

          #5
          Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

          How is Quadraphinix 4.8 and Danshi 5.6? Quadraphinix is wayy harder
          And Heartbeatz 5.45
          Last edited by Ziemniax; 04-12-2015, 08:30 AM.

          Sprindex style player from Poland.
          My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChW...zwbcEXVdMocktg
          https://www.mediafire.com/?whqcjgmx129tme0 SPREAD THE INDEX OUT NOW

          I hate arguing about my playstyle.

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          • Candor
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2011
            • 266

            #6
            Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

            no problem,
            quadra raised to 5.30, danshi lowered to 5.50, heartbeatz lowered to 5.40.
            I still think danshi is harder than quadra tho.

            again these difficulties are by no means fixed, feel free to voice changes in the suggestions tab :>
            Last edited by Candor; 04-12-2015, 09:53 AM.
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            • James May
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2012
              • 3817

              #7
              Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

              I do have a few charts recommendation :> Will probs edit this out some more when I get the diffs probably sorted out (not in any particular order of difficulty)

              BtE 1.1 AA/1.2 AA (PPP2) [Mid (1.1)-High (1.2) D5?]
              Papa Gonzales 1.2 AA (PPP2)
              Thermosphere 1.1 AA/1.2 AA (PPP2) [1.1 could be high D4, low D5. 1.2 low D5 as well, not too difficult to AA on]
              V1 1.3 AA (PPP2)
              Plasmatextor 1.0 AA (FFRCP Summer 2011) [Personally would have recommended this over the ODI3 one but w/e]
              Powershifter 1.0 AA/1.1 AA (NBJS3)
              Earth Quake 1.1 AA (ODI3)
              Disabled the Flaw 1.2 AA/1.3 AA (F5)
              Gigadelic 1.1 AA (PPP2)
              BF2014 1.0 AA/1.1 AA/1.2 AA (Red Fraction)
              Dick Jazz 1.0 AA (Red Fraction)
              =Planet KARMA= 1.0 AA (ODI2)

              That's p much all that I have now, I'll probably play these out in SM tomorrow to post my personal Division/Diff standings with these...
              bananas


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              • lurker
                ur worst nitemare
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2003
                • 1628

                #8
                Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                everything about this can be summed up by the fact that you think katayoku is harder than m-a 1.1
                Last edited by lurker; 04-12-2015, 11:50 AM.
                some feathery f**k

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                • Candor
                  FFR Player
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 266

                  #9
                  Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                  Originally posted by lurker
                  everything about this can be summed up by the fact that you think katayoku is harder than m-a 1.1
                  Kateyoku has handstream + jumpjacks + weird patterns.
                  Although M-A gives no breaks, the patterns are relatively easy and AA isn't hard if you manage your stamina well over the first half.

                  Not many people will say M-A 1.1 is harder than katayoku. And according to icecubez, I should have been able to AA 1.1 when I was low d6.
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                  • Guest15937
                    One-handed elite
                    • May 2008
                    • 1464

                    #10
                    Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                    Some song suggestions:

                    Quasar (mid-high D2) + rates (seriously, who HASN'T played Quasar on a rate before)

                    Eggman's OML (upper D3)

                    My Spirit Will Go On (low D6? not 100% sure here)


                    Also I personally think Vertex Beta is considerably harder than Heavenly Spores but that's just me IDK
                    The renegade has betrayed me.

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                    • Ziemniax
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 169

                      #11
                      Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                      Originally posted by Guest15937

                      Quasar (mid-high D2) + rates (seriously, who HASN'T played Quasar on a rate before)
                      I DIDN'T

                      Sprindex style player from Poland.
                      My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChW...zwbcEXVdMocktg
                      https://www.mediafire.com/?whqcjgmx129tme0 SPREAD THE INDEX OUT NOW

                      I hate arguing about my playstyle.

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                      • Candor
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 266

                        #12
                        Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                        Spreadsheet updated with new song entries (mainly d2-d3), and a slight change in format, along with links to all the song pack downloads ~
                        Note the the difficulty ratings for d2-d4 are not entirely accurate atm, feel free to test and comment :>

                        @James May Ill look into those, you can add them yourself if you want =w=
                        Last edited by Candor; 04-14-2015, 12:01 AM.
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                        • Wayward Vagabond
                          Confirmed Heartbreaker
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 5866

                          #13
                          Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                          Add my files and packs plz

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                          • M0nkeyz
                            Simfile Judge
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • May 2013
                            • 482

                            #14
                            Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                            so any download links?

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                            • Candor
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 266

                              #15
                              Re: SM-FFR Conversion Guidelines

                              Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                              Add my files and packs plz
                              list me all your packs and files
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