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  • FF_rules
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    • May 2006
    • 668

    #1

    Old timer getting back in; need help

    I was never good enough to AAA, I just focused on FC and that was it (at least back then).

    I sort of blame lag for it but that's an issue that's fixable elsewhere; what I'm really making this thread for is this, I need help improving.

    Current Goal: FC EHHS without mashing (I mashed it at one point 6~ or so years ago to FC it and I want to get a legit FC on it) I've managed to FC other songs in the 60's back at my prime and I'm no longer there.

    How do I go about learning all those double/stream (or whatever it's called- i forgot terms.) especially now that I can't even FC songs I used to at 60 difficulty? (-practice)

  • gold stinger
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    • Jan 2007
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    #2
    Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

    You pretty much got the exact idea for re-learning FFR. FC songs that you can comprehend without mashing, AAA songs that start to become susceptible to being so, try different speed modifications, rinse and repeat.

    You'll eventually hit a point where there will be very few songs to practice on, mindblocks will start settling in, and improvements will slow down. A majority of people look to rate mods, FFRmania, or Stepmania as different outlets & sources to improving past what the regular FFR engine can offer.

    FFRMania:

    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=132902

    Stepmania Packs:

    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=133223

    FFR Rates can be activated in Options when using Flash Player 10 or above on the R^3 edition of FFR.

    If lag is the issue, consider switching over to using a Standalone version of the game if you haven't already.
    Tutorial on how to set that up is located here:

    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=120256

    Beyond that, the majority of fixable solutions include patience, dedication, and hope. If you play once a day for maybe an hour or two per day, you're almost 100% guaranteed to skillboost by the end of 2 weeks or so, at least imo.
    Last edited by gold stinger; 12-27-2014, 12:34 AM.
    Originally posted by YoshL
    butts.



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    • FF_rules
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      • May 2006
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      #3
      Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

      Originally posted by gold stinger
      FC songs that you can comprehend without mashing, AAA songs that start to become susceptible to being so, try different speed modifications, rinse and repeat.
      I sort of comprehend EHHS but I can't react fast enough when they start spamming doubles every other double. Learning the pattern is one thing but I suppose the only way to increase reaction/recognition time is practice.

      Is there any way to play the song at reduced speed to learn the pattern specifically?
      edit: Neat didn't know there was a .swf standalone, thanks
      Last edited by FF_rules; 12-27-2014, 12:38 AM.

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      • gold stinger
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        #4
        Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

        Originally posted by FF_rules
        I sort of comprehend EHHS but I can't react fast enough when they start spamming doubles every other double. Learning the pattern is one thing but I suppose the only way to increase reaction/recognition time is practice.

        Is there any way to play the song at reduced speed to learn the pattern specifically?
        edit: Neat didn't know there was a .swf standalone, thanks
        You sure can, rates on Flash Player 10 or higher using the R^3 engine (located here on the website, located here as .swf) don't necessarily have to be 1.05, 1.1, etc... They can also be 0.9x song speed, 0.75x song speed, 0.5x song speed, etc...

        Further down the options tree in R^3 as well, there are options for isolation and starting note, which allows you to start from a certain arrow number in the song. It allows you to practice certain patterns that are located in a song, and can be used in conjunction with rates. Only downside is that you cannot record scores for songs that have a rate mod lower than 1.0x, and cannot record scores for songs that start on an arrow number other than 1 or 0.
        Last edited by gold stinger; 12-27-2014, 12:43 AM.
        Originally posted by YoshL
        butts.



        - Tosh 2014






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        • FF_rules
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          • May 2006
          • 668

          #5
          Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

          Originally posted by gold stinger
          You sure can, rates on Flash Player 10 or higher using the R^3 engine (located here on the website, located here as .swf) don't necessarily have to be 1.05, 1.1, etc... They can also be 0.9x song speed, 0.75x song speed, 0.5x song speed, etc...
          are you talking about tightening the notes together? I meant physically slowing the song down to maybe 0.75x it's time (1minute song = 80 second song).
          If you meant that; I can't find that option, thanks for helping btw; much appreciated.
          Last edited by FF_rules; 12-27-2014, 12:45 AM.

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          • gold stinger
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            #6
            Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

            Originally posted by YoshL
            butts.



            - Tosh 2014






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            • FF_rules
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              • May 2006
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              #7
              Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

              Oh! Thanks

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              • gold stinger
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                #8
                Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                no problem mate, if you need any other help at all, feel free to ask. Majority of us are pretty open & can offer help when needed.
                Originally posted by YoshL
                butts.



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                • justin_ator
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                  Good luck! Keep us updated on your progress, and welcome back~

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                  • FF_rules
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                    • May 2006
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                    #10
                    Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                    Different subject; I've realized this happen once every hour or so. All keys lock out for X amount of seconds. Is this a prevalent issue or just me?

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                    • danny53x
                      AKA Yotipo
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1008

                      #11
                      Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                      This thread helped me. Thanks!
                      @FF_rules, perhaps your keyboard doesn't allow multiple key inputs. You could try using a different setup by using stepmania's 'Test Input'. Or try something like this and tap all 4 keys to see if they all light up at once. If they don't test another combination.
                      Last edited by danny53x; 12-27-2014, 03:17 AM.

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                      • _Zenith_
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                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4629

                        #12
                        Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                        Like Yotipo said, if your keys are not recognizing when you perform certain 3-key taps and 4-key taps, then test out a different setup and see if that works, or the fail-safe is using a NumPad + 2 keys on the keyboard as your setup.

                        Keyboards are weird like this





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                        • FF_rules
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                          • May 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                          No that isn't an issue; I do triple/quads quite often and it normally happens on a rapid singles/double (at least; that last 2 times it happened... it happened while I was trying to AAA a -10 difficulty song). So I don't think it's the song.

                          >Tips/tricks I've learned today
                          Set FPS to something other than base 30 (I'm using 120)
                          Play the .swf file in full screen (Holy shit was this useful)
                          Increase speed from 2 to 2.2 (I can't go much higher without it feeling weird; increasing the size of the player helped)
                          -Position the keyboard somewhere more stable for hand position (this is actually something I used to do and just forgot over the 6 or so years I stopped playing)

                          >todo: find a better computer stand so it doesn't shake when I mash them doubles

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                          • Rapta
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                            #14
                            Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                            [QUOTE=>Tips/tricks I've learned today
                            Set FPS to something other than base 30 (I'm using 120)[/QUOTE]

                            Yolo quote.

                            My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.
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                            • TC_Halogen
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                              #15
                              Re: Old timer getting back in; need help

                              Originally posted by Rapta
                              Yolo quote.

                              My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.
                              what

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