changing style

[Izzy]

Re: changing style

like using a,w,i,l for example, then I guess that would be the closest thing.

Damn that is ridiculously uncomfortable. The idea of using q,s,l,p was to be more natural feeling. If you lay your hands out on your keyboard you'll notice your middle and index fingers will be closer to 2 separate rows.

[XelNya]

Re: changing style

That setup is generally referred to as a concave setup (I don't recall it being referred to as inverted spread before). If your middle fingers are a lot longer than your index fingers, you might find concave more comfortable. On the other hand, if your index and middle fingers don't have a significant difference in length, you might prefer linear spread more. That's how I've always viewed it.

There are other factors that can influence which setup you prefer, such as the angle you position your hands in. And, of course, you may prefer a different setup regardless of digit ratio. Keep on experimenting with different setups until you find one that best fits you.

I've never heard of it referred to as any term used in this thread. I've always heard it referred to as "Hybrid" because it's supposed to give you some of the perks of index (such as runningman and and easier times with one handed trills) while still giving you the four finger setup, and sacrificing a bit of JS ability. Personally I despise this setup it's so uncomfortable.

[Solomine Gray]

Re: changing style

Damn that is ridiculously uncomfortable. The idea of using q,s,l,p was to be more natural feeling. If you lay your hands out on your keyboard you'll notice your middle and index fingers will be closer to 2 separate rows.

Yeah, I can't imagine any kind of setup deserving of being called inverted ever being very good.

As for a natural feeling setup, that's what I'm talking about with the keyboard angle. It sounds like your keyboard is pretty square with your desk and where you're sitting. If your keyboard is titled at an angle, then one of your hands will end up playing keys side-by-side to compensate for the angle.

I've always heard it referred to as "Hybrid"

What? It's not a hybrid spread at all. Hybrid spread is when one hand uses the index and middle fingers while the other hand uses the middle and ring fingers, it's half pettanko.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: changing style

you mean concave

i play concave btw

[Dynam0]

Re: changing style

I see that everyone felt the need to rename the playstyle I made up forever ago. Not that I particularly cared about the name, but at least it had a name that wasn't any better or worse than concave or inverted. It had this name since 2006-2007ish.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ight=playstyle


Personally it has always worked really well for jumpstream in comparison to typical spread. I never noticed a difference in trills.

Interesting because I never remembered hearing the term diagonal spread before...in fact it wasn't until recently in Patashu's Stepmania Terminology thread that I saw concave/convex styles classifying that way of playing at all. Those terms fit more imo because they are more specific since diagonal spread can refer to either convex/concave setups (though convex seems extremely uncomfortable I agree lol).

Inverted setup would literally mean reversing the configuration (so left hand plays right side and right hand plays left side). I had a friend who played with a weird semi-inverted style on the arrow keys; his left hand would do left+down like normal spread but his right middle would be on the up key and his right index would be on the right key. I was always annoyed because he would have to reposition the keyboard at a 45 degree angle to play like that but I liked to tape my keyboard down in a particular spot

[NeonSM]

Re: changing style

Hey, Nix, just wanted to let you know that your persistence with this style has encouraged me to go on and do the same. I haven't seen as much progress as you have, but I can already feel that it is more comfortable than linear spread for me. I don't know if you have long fingers like I do, but my fingers just feel so relaxed.

[xNiX]

Re: changing style

I have incredibly long fingers, thus making it incredibly hard to trill on linear like I said earlier. I didn't see much progress until about a week. Good luck man! Show me some scores if you do improve.