Getting Better?

[SoggyWaffulz]

Re: Getting Better?

Yeah that's it
But there's not much to learn on that's actually worth playing and won't send you into fits of frustration

We need a training pack guaiz

I think this is my major concern here.

I can stumble through 300 songs that are all rated 11-12 like an idiot and learn nothing from them. The value in FFR, in my opinion, is that you can start at Dance 2, for example, and then work your way through the pages. MOST songs will be accurately placed difficulty-wise, and so as you're working your way through the pages, you are almost guaranteed to improve.

SM, on the other hand, is like a shot in the dark. Unless someone were to sit down and say, "Play this song, then this song, then this song, then this song, then this song" or refer me to a pack in particular, I'd be wasting a lot of time getting destroyed on songs like SNOW (As far as JS goes).

In my mind, I think "Okay, AA Quasar. Let's try Snow. Nope, just got shit on HARD."

Y'know what I mean?

Edit:

Do you have any lag? Is there something stopping you to AAA middle range files? I think it would be easier to fix these kind of issues than telling you how to play.

No, not really any lag. If my high range is in the low 50's and I can comfortably FC songs from 40+, the only reason I can't AAA songs <40 is because I miss the PA here and there. For an FFR example, I can AA Daybreak with nearly all perfects up to the end bit where it includes jumps in the stream. There, I can't read it properly and I'm either forced to mash or break my combo.

[Tristana]

Re: Getting Better?

ffr can offer 1/10000th of the variety of files because judging and getting files in is a very strict process

stepmania encourages FreeDomOfExpresSION

just hsmp1-2 have files that are beyond the imagination of FFR standards



ex) one person plays Club and J'ai Envie to practice jacks and such
one person plays Aci-L oni and edit to practice

aci-l oni / edit will crush anything on ffr thats related to jacks

[SoggyWaffulz]

Re: Getting Better?

So last night I did a comparison between my playing with and without jumps.

I first played Lovely Lovely Lovely with NoJumps: AA.
Afterward, with jumps: B

Anyone have an opinion on practicing with NoJumps first? Do you think that'd be good for getting up to speed with a song before incorporating the jumps, or would it just set me back in the long run?

Also, clap seems to help my FA count A LOT. I figure that's just preference, though.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Re: Getting Better?

ffr can offer 1/10000th of the variety of files because judging and getting files in is a very strict process

stepmania encourages FreeDomOfExpresSION

just hsmp1-2 have files that are beyond the imagination of FFR standards

Spoilered due to having little relevance to the op

FFR in it's own right is expression within "defined" standards. SM charts tend to have less notes, but compensate for that via holds. FFR is straight up just hitting as many of the notes as you can sure, but in a roundabout way, that to is an expression for the song. You ca do this in SM, but how often do you see it? It's very very rare, and then on top of that you're having to ignore all the lesser quality charts. But on FFR you also have to ignore songs we cannot get permission for for legal reasons, not because people aren't willing to step the material. ect. This could keep going.

So if you asked me, both of them are equal in "expressiveness." In terms of the charts.

Also getting a chart into FFR is a lot harder than a SM sure. That's honestly a good thing. Despite what I think of the in game charts, FFR has by all technicalities the "highest standards" for charting, so you could say ffr has the best quality charts.

Also: A few charts that I would argue are harder from their HSMP1 counterparts, Reality and Almost There, are in game, so that statement to a degree is wrong outright.

Anyways

So last night I did a comparison between my playing with and without jumps.

I first played Lovely Lovely Lovely with NoJumps: AA.
Afterward, with jumps: B

Anyone have an opinion on practicing with NoJumps first? Do you think that'd be good for getting up to speed with a song before incorporating the jumps, or would it just set me back in the long run?

Also, clap seems to help my FA count A LOT. I figure that's just preference, though.

You're using it to train and not to score so playing with jumps off to get a feel of the chart is fine. But if you ever plan on trying to post your scores and strive for the best improvements, you're best off leaving the jumps on. I hate densely jumped charts, but even I force myself to leave them on. Charts play very weirdly without it.

Some people prefer the clap, others don't. It's all preference on that. It's very much like note skins. I've been training lately with using Halvednote noteskin. (Which lives to it's name and makes 8th notes appear as quarters ect.) So I honestly see no issue here.

[Tristana]

Re: Getting Better?

lol midnite wat

a ton of sm charts just have straight up notes

ex. shind bad heavy, mswgo, pleasant farmer

but all im sayin is if a person wants to reach the upper echelons of ffr/sm skill, stepmania is usually the fastest way to go lol

ffr files are too easy compared to sm
and the hard ffr files are not too fun because they are hard to AAA thanks to 30 fps flash system (revo, almost there and sht like that)