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  • popsicle_3000
    Legendary Noob
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Sep 2005
    • 4641

    #1

    Does stream color matter?

    I've been wondering if the color/timing of streams affects how well i do on them. I've always felt i've been able to read 24th & 32nd stream better than 16th stream, even when they are similar speeds.
    take monstrous turtles which is a bit faster 32nd stream than vertex beta, at 16th stream. Obviously the streams are much longer in VB, but i find i have a harder time reading them. Purple is 16th stream, faster than both those, but i find it much harder than heavenly spores, 24th stream, even though it is a bit slower.

    i wonder if the fact that there are 4 colors in 24th & 32nd stream makes a difference compared to 3 in 16th.

    any thoughts?

    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
    39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
    one way to stream them all
    Originally posted by Xiz
    Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

    But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
    Originally posted by thesunfan
    replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
    Originally posted by reuben_tate
    Title: Popsicle Three

    Thousand the farthest
    He's gone in an official
    Whoop hip hip hooray!
    Originally posted by U.N. Owen
    kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

    @popsicle_3000:
    Danger incoming
    The popsicles are melting
    Three thousand of them
    Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
    you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

    dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
    friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
    dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
    friend: hey bro can i tell you something
    dynam0 yeah man whats up?
    friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
    dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
    friend: thanks man
    dynam0: no problem man
    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
    pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
    Originally posted by Xiz
    Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.
  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #2
    Re: Does stream color matter?

    The amount of colors greatly affects reading ability for some people. I'm terrible at free-form colored areas, which is why songs like Planet Karma gave me trouble for a while.

    Also, this concept of reading is the reason why I made the halved note noteskin for SM -- I wanted to be able to turn 32nd streams into 16th streams in appearance. I find it much easier to tackle one huge 16th stream on SM than a huge 32nd stream.

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    • gold stinger
      Signature Extraordinare~~
      Event Staff
      Game Manager
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Jan 2007
      • 6428

      #3
      Re: Does stream color matter?

      32nd streams generally mess me up worse than 16th streams (even if they're at the same speed). I can sometimes trip up on the 32nd streams in colorful course, where it changes from 32nd to 16th near the end.

      haven't came across a decent 64th stream, other than 64th rolls and 64th trills at the slowest. Also, when will someone make a half decent 48th stream? Haven't seen one of those in any songs I've played...
      Originally posted by YoshL
      butts.



      - Tosh 2014






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      • Xx{Midnight}xX
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2007
        • 8548

        #4
        Re: Does stream color matter?

        Originally posted by TC_Halogen
        Also, this concept of reading is the reason why I made the halved note noteskin for SM -- I wanted to be able to turn 32nd streams into 16th streams in appearance. I find it much easier to tackle one huge 16th stream on SM than a huge 32nd stream.
        dl link plox, I wanna see what it does to my reading

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        • dragonmegaXX
          ITG playing fur
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jul 2008
          • 3661

          #5
          Re: Does stream color matter?

          I actually think part of the reason I passed Destination of the Heart first instead of Destination relapse on pad was because DotH was 400bpm eigth notes and Relapse was 200bpm 16ths... I just like 2 colors more

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          • dore
            caveman pornstar
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 6317

            #6
            Re: Does stream color matter?

            I've always had trouble with 32nd streams because of the lack of color contrast. In between each blue you get orange yellow orange red orange yellow orange which can all run together. 24ths are a little better since the pinks are bright and the purples pretty dark to give a little contrast.

            16th streams are always the easiest though because (a) they're so common and (b) they have high contrast all the time.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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            • EzExZeRo7497
              • Dec 2010
              • 6858

              #7
              Re: Does stream color matter?

              Originally posted by TC_Halogen
              The amount of colors greatly affects reading ability for some people. I'm terrible at free-form colored areas, which is why songs like Planet Karma gave me trouble for a while.

              Also, this concept of reading is the reason why I made the halved note noteskin for SM -- I wanted to be able to turn 32nd streams into 16th streams in appearance. I find it much easier to tackle one huge 16th stream on SM than a huge 32nd stream.
              This. I find 24th/12th streams much harder to read compared to 32nds or 16ths.

              16ths > 32nds > 48ths > 8ths > 12ths > 24ths
              Last edited by EzExZeRo7497; 09-25-2012, 11:45 PM.

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              • Wayward Vagabond
                Confirmed Heartbreaker
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jul 2012
                • 5866

                #8
                Re: Does stream color matter?

                More like 24th 32nd 16th 12th 8th

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                • qqwref
                  stepmania archaeologist
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 4092

                  #9
                  Re: Does stream color matter?

                  Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                  Also, this concept of reading is the reason why I made the halved note noteskin for SM -- I wanted to be able to turn 32nd streams into 16th streams in appearance. I find it much easier to tackle one huge 16th stream on SM than a huge 32nd stream.
                  Speaking of this, were you around for thirdsed note?
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                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #10
                    Re: Does stream color matter?

                    Originally posted by qqwref
                    Speaking of this, were you around for thirdsed note?
                    I was, haha. I never found a good use for it, though.

                    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                    dl link plox, I wanna see what it does to my reading

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                    • Xx{Midnight}xX
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 8548

                      #11
                      Re: Does stream color matter?

                      Heroooooooo

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                      • SKG_Scintill
                        Spun a twirly fruitcake,
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3875

                        #12
                        Re: Does stream color matter?

                        Strangely I prefer 32nds over 16ths
                        Also, 4th stream = epilepsy





                        Originally posted by bluguerilla
                        So Sexy Robotnik (SKG_Scintill) {.0001/10} [--]
                        ___
                        . RHYTHMS PR LAYERING
                        . ZOMG I HAD TO QUIT OUT TERRIBLE
                        .

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                        • LongGone
                          -
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1679

                          #13
                          Re: Does stream color matter?

                          Reminds me of...

                          Notechart by 0
                          (can't read the colours at all..)
                          Last edited by LongGone; 09-26-2012, 02:23 AM.
                          My Solo Simfiles
                          My Solo Simfiles Part 2

                          Originally posted by Choofers
                          people age at a rate of about 1 year per year

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                          • popsicle_3000
                            Legendary Noob
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 4641

                            #14
                            Re: Does stream color matter?

                            Originally posted by LongGone
                            Reminds me of...

                            Notechart by 0
                            (can't read the colours at all..)
                            wat did i just see

                            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                            39,000 popsicles pro bg blue note arrow slayer whoa damn..
                            Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                            one way to stream them all
                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                            But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                            Originally posted by thesunfan
                            replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
                            Originally posted by reuben_tate
                            Title: Popsicle Three

                            Thousand the farthest
                            He's gone in an official
                            Whoop hip hip hooray!
                            Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                            kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                            @popsicle_3000:
                            Danger incoming
                            The popsicles are melting
                            Three thousand of them
                            Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                            you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                            dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                            friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                            dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                            friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                            dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                            friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                            dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                            friend: thanks man
                            dynam0: no problem man
                            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                            pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                            Originally posted by Xiz
                            Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                            • Xx{Midnight}xX
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 8548

                              #15
                              Re: Does stream color matter?

                              So I finally got around to playing a bit with it

                              And I have to say I'm liking this. I find it much easier to read red blue and yellow (What I'm mostly accustomed to seeing) over the idea of orange ect.

                              Though it'll take more getting used to be definite / sure, I might actually switch to playing like this. I found as I was doing the Holy Order's chart that I was decimating MA wise more than I normally do, and I didn't even change how I was hitting anything.

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