FMO get

[hi19hi19]

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I just realized that his scores were done with so little retries .-.

Most of the time I get a great score in the first 2-5 tries, then keep whoring it another 10 tries and get increasingly worse then move on to another song.


Another option for Oni! I'd have to isolate the 24th stream, I got one of the goods in there and that was a fluke excellent run too. Haven't tried mirror but maybe rolling right to left would be easier...

The only hard part of this is the (14) 2 (14) 2 (14) trill thing into some random hand into a 48th roll... everything else I can consistently AAA. If I isolate and really work on that section this is definitely a possible Oni get.

This file, the one most people get Oni on. Boring file and I hate the song, but it's an option... I realize it's probably the easiest Oni file *sigh*

[ScarletSky]

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I've noticed that ultimately Midnight Dragon is easier on non-mirror. The transition on that roll in mirror is much more challenging than non-mirror so if you can PA (or AAA) the roll like that on non-mirror, don't bother, just keep whoring.

[who_cares973]

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Sick fmo scores o.o I'm the same way too haha a lot of my best scores are after 1-3 tries

[Arbliterator]

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At least give me a chance to play and try for oni again, darn carpal tunnel breaks. D: Not surprised if you get it within the week.

[igotrhythm]

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Yes in my opinion this is hardly FMO worthy... apparently people have lots of trouble with it though? So I don't know. Regardless, it's labeled an FMO for now and it's certainly not easy so I'm happy



Put *a few* tries in to get Oni today:

Realized when I got this that the song gives Oni, is short, it's jacks and polyrhythms which I'm good at, I like the song and I like the file and I can score well on it... TIME TO WHORE!




Best PA. Pretty typical that an early try was the best, I get sloppy after whoring too much usually.




A new record! Maybe I could beat this but I'm quitting most of my attempts at the first good so I didn't really finish many.




178 attempts and no AAA. Mostly posting this for people who think that I was sandbagging... it's all dedication and practice, haters gonna hate~




I'll try again tomorrow. I've gotten each piece of the file individually, including the long 2323 trill once, I just need to put it all together. There may be other songs that are easier to get Oni on but I really like this file so I don't mind whoring it as opposed to something like Jeanie and Caroline which I don't like as much. I'm a huge fan of Rottel and I don't have mindblocks on it so I might give that a try too, but it would be fun to unlock Oni with something unconventional like Kyrie

Protip: Both of the 32nd trills start on the right hand on mirror, so if you're more comfortable that way and don't mind a left-handed jumpjack into the slow part, try that. (Kyrie is my best Oni get with 4-0-0-1.) As for the polyrhythms in the intro, it's just a 12th trill on one hand and a simultaneous 16th trill on the other, but it's still very luck-based to nail.

[hi19hi19]

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Protip: Both of the 32nd trills start on the right hand on mirror, so if you're more comfortable that way and don't mind a left-handed jumpjack into the slow part, try that. (Kyrie is my best Oni get with 4-0-0-1.) As for the polyrhythms in the intro, it's just a 12th trill on one hand and a simultaneous 16th trill on the other, but it's still very luck-based to nail.

The polyrhythms rarely give me trouble. I never think of it as two differently timed trills I have to do on different hands- that would screw me up for sure.

There's two ways to look at it, one is to think of the rhythm it would make:
T - - T - - T - - T - - T
plus
T - - - T - - - T - - - T
equals
T - - T T - T - T T - - T
If you pay attention to your keytaps you can hit most polyrhythms by breaking down how they would sound overlapped like this
Try using your hands to tap out a 4 over 3 rhythm like that and you will understand- once you start to figure polyrhythms out they're not so bad and lots of fun.

The other is to simply read it as it is and not pay attention to your keytaps at all. If you read it as just a dense jumble of arrows with no pattern, like a random burst, sometimes that works better than trying to break it down.

Either way, my issue is (obviously) nailing both trills, the hand minijacks, and the (34) jack all in one run. I also get lost pretty easily in the 24th jumpstream for some reason, it's not fast at all but I derp there all the time oddly.
Gonna try some more tonight probably!


EDIT- Wrecked!
Infinitely easier for me on mirror. here's hoping the rest of the file isn't harder with it mirrored, because if not I can totally get this right now.

[DossarLX ODI]

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[hi19hi19]

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Ahh this ****ing token.

Not happening at the moment, gotta take a break I guess. Getting way too sloppy, I was getting clean to the 24ths basically every other run in the beginning, now I get there like once in 15 tries... not worth it.
Nailed the 24ths in a clean run once but the grace note section after it is much harder for me on mirror and I got a good there instead. I can do it though!

[Zon Fire]

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Your so close man just keep working at it!

is the trill giving you the most trouble in kyrie?

also getting oni from midnight dragon would be sick haha

[iCeCuBEz v2]

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Yeah you look at differently timed trills layered over each other the same way I do.

I look at it from a musical perspective, when a 16th trill is layered over 12th trill, it simplifies to a 4:3 hemiola I guess you would call it. A four over three hemiola could be written as a specific pattern if you know rhythmic dictation. (1 e + a, etc.)

So what you said makes absolute perfect sense... I'll change the T's to right and left hands.

R - - - R - - - R - - - R
L - - L - - L - - L - - L

R - - L R - L - R L - - R
1 e +a 2 e + a 3 e + a 4

The right hand is playing the triplets while the left is playing the 16ths. The right hand plays 3 beats in the same time the left plays 4 but written in this way, the individual rhythms are connected together and not just perceived as two unrelated rhythms. So 4:3 can be thought about as the 16th pattern [1 - - a 2 - + - 3 e - - 1] with the 3 part being the beat.

blue: 12ths
red: 16ths
The beat of the pattern is the 12ths (or blue notes)

I like this approach for slower polyrhythms where I can actually hear this pattern and play it with my hands, and I can MA it without a problem.

For stuff like chaotic rain dance, I gotta just read it as a cluster **** of arrows cuz thats 24ths over 16ths, which is the same as 3:2, which is actually easier to conceptualize and play. However, at such a fast tempo it is kind of pointless to think of it that way because you can still MA it by just reading the notes and playing them. For stuff like that I like to read it as 32nd jumpstream just "condensed" within each beat because it is 4 notes for every quarter note except they're closer together within each beat and not evenly distributed like normal 32nds. I feel flat is almost easier for ridiculous polyrhythms because you just look at the group of arrows as a whole and not as two separate parts layered over each other. It's easier to play one thing then try to look at two at the same time and coordinate one hand to play one part and the other hand to play the other.

Kryptonite is completely erroneous to me because it is 32nds/12ths, which ends up being 7 notes for every quarter note at 100 bpm tempo..... ack!

[Emo_Saur_]

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Hi9, you're gettin' nuts. Good luck in D5 soon.