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  • imRiChY
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2006
    • 77

    #16
    Re: Hi

    Originally posted by purplepopcorn
    ps j1 helps
    J1 helps when it comes to passing the song, but do you really want to clear max300 by making it easier that way? You could probably fix the .ini as well and make it loads easier, but what is the glory in that? Even clearing max300 on a pad, hooked up to a computer with stepmania, playing J4, L4, will not prove that you can clear it on an arcade machine, since it's a bit more strict.

    One way you could make it easier is by having a chair, or some other stuff behind your pad, so that you can simulate the bar on a ddr machine. Use this if it makes you drain less stamina or something.

    If you have a plastic pad (one of those thin, easy to destroy ones) it could get ugly just because of the fact that those are pretty useless. If you have a logic 3, TX1000 (or some other TX stuff) or a Cobalt Flux the pad probably isn't gonna be in the way of clearing max300...

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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #17
      Re: Hi

      I have the foam Red Octane Ignition pad. It's certainly not crappy, but I know that it's nowhere near arcade quality. Also, It's kind of cheap because the arrows on the pad are raised instead of recessed like the arecade arrows. Since I have massive feet (size 14 shoes) I can really easily hit quads with just my feet. This makes it almost too easy to "mash" on the pad during the hard 8th sections in Max300. I'm pretty sure I would have a lot more trouble playing with an arcade pad.

      I also use a chair with a towel on it for any hard songs (like 7+ footers), but I try to refrain if I'm playing something easier.

      Whatever, passing Max300 heavy is just a goal. It's not like the end of the world if I can't do it.

      Also, .ini editing and screwing with the judge settings is stupid. I prefer to play 100% legit, thanks.
      Last edited by hi19hi19; 10-22-2006, 08:38 AM.


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      • V-synk
        Banned
        • Oct 2006
        • 43

        #18
        Re: Hi

        What judge does the arcade use?

        If you're having difficulty, try using judge 2 or 3. It's a lot easier.

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        • hi19hi19
          lol happy
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2005
          • 12194

          #19
          Re: Hi

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          Also, .ini editing and screwing with the judge settings is stupid. I prefer to play 100% legit, thanks.
          Hey there.

          Also the arcade doesn't feel that much more strict than stepmania. Maybe like judge 4.5?


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          • V-synk
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 43

            #20
            Re: Hi

            Originally posted by hi19hi19
            Hey there.

            Also the arcade doesn't feel that much more strict than stepmania. Maybe like judge 4.5?
            Seems like judge 5 to me.

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            • imRiChY
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2006
              • 77

              #21
              Re: Hi

              Since the arcades doesn't use stepmania, but konami's own software, it's not very easy to say how they are compared to each other. I don't know much about this, but I can state an example.

              In The Groove 2 machines is built using stepmania in some way. I do not know if they have J4 the same way as Stepmania has J4, but it's not way off I guess. Getting an excellent on the ITG machine is way easier than getting a perfect on DDR (I am always referring to DDR Extreme when I talk about DDR arcade), but getting a fantastic is harder. What I now would like to compare is a song I have played, both on DDR EX and ITG 2 (if we assume that ITG 2 uses the stepmania JD). Because of the r21 patch on ITG 2, you can bring songs shorter than 2 min on a USB stick and play it on the machine. Therefore, I tried Max 300 on the ITG 2 machine. Here at home, I have a DDR Extreme arcade machine. My personal best is about 25 greats FC. I tried Max 300 at the ITG 2 machine once. I almost didn't warmup, so I just tried the song. It was our first time playing non-ITG songs on the machine, so we just wanted to try 'em out, even though we almost didn't warm up. What did I get? 1 great, 1 miss. I didn't TOTALLY OWN the song like never before, it was just a random decent score. It shows that getting few greats on the ITG machine (and hence stepmania) does not even come close to getting the same score on a DDR machine...

              J5 on stepmania is probably a lot closer, but it could also be a bit too much. I don't really know. Just go try it on an arcade machine when you can clear it on your pad

              Conclusion: DDR timing is not easily compared to SM timing, but it is more strict for sure.

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              • YungYung
                FFR Player
                • Jul 2005
                • 810

                #22
                Re: Hi

                Originally posted by V-synk
                Seems like judge 5 to me.
                OH THE ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE.

                Anyway, these scores aren't bad at all for someone who's just starting out stepmania. Keep it up
                clairmai lol hvam lol

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                • hi19hi19
                  lol happy
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 12194

                  #23
                  Re: Hi

                  I've been playing keyboard for like over 8 months, is that really still just starting out? lol
                  Unless you are reffering to my pad scores, in which case, thanks.


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                  • TD_samtorx
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 606

                    #24
                    Re: Hi

                    lol i love your destiny file. its just annoying to aa sometimes.
                    bye

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                    • hi19hi19
                      lol happy
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 12194

                      #25
                      Re: Hi

                      Despite all the (totally valid) critiscism I get for that file, it is actually quite fun sometimes.

                      I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks this.


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                      • Shashakiro
                        TWO THOUZAND COMBO
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 9082

                        #26
                        Re: Hi

                        I've always thought the arcade was at J6...that's what it feels like to me.
                        4th Official FFR Tournament - Master division champion!

                        Originally posted by Boogiebear
                        use ur bain. Itz there for a reason.

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                        • hi19hi19
                          lol happy
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 12194

                          #27
                          Re: Hi

                          Reviving thread becuase of awesome pad scores I got today. It's cool to be able to compare to how bad I was back then. I actually have only played like one or two hours more in total since I posted those scores, lol what an improvement!

                          Anyway, after coming home from seeing Borat (great movie) I got this:

                          Which was cool becuase I suck at the patterns in this song.

                          So then I tried some 9 footers:

                          Easy. (Why is this 9 feet?)

                          So I decided to try this and

                          OMFG I passed. I absolutely can't do that gallop thing with my feet, man this is a hard pass.

                          Then I got my first pad A (on max 300 lmao), comboed the first section of 8ths and the spin/crossover thing, as well as the quarter jacks at the end. Good stuff.


                          And right after, my first AA! Whoo


                          So yeah. Comment on what I can do to improve.
                          P.S. I tried Max300 heavy and got to the freeze again, I still die becuase of stamina at those trills, my legs just give out. I think if I had enough stamina I just might be able pass it >_<
                          Last edited by hi19hi19; 11-3-2006, 09:19 PM.


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                          • Shashakiro
                            TWO THOUZAND COMBO
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 9082

                            #28
                            Re: Hi

                            Play at teh Faunce arcade =D
                            4th Official FFR Tournament - Master division champion!

                            Originally posted by Boogiebear
                            use ur bain. Itz there for a reason.

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                            • Anuj
                              FFR Player
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 5998

                              #29
                              Re: Hi

                              Arcade is around judge 5.5 basically. And judging by your current scores, I don't think you'll be able to pass max 300 heavy quite yet... But don't let what I think stop you... The only thing you really need to do that song (at your level that is...) is stamina and the ability to understand where to put what foot =P
                              Timing you don't need to PASS max 300, so its very possible to have a guy B max 300 standard and pass max 300 heavy :P

                              But my advice is, if you're going for a pass in the arcade, do it first stage, because your lifebar will deplete a lot slower on your first stage than it would in your last stage... Progressive lifebar is what they call it =P


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                              • Telvanni_guard
                                FFR Player
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 1031

                                #30
                                Re: Hi

                                So Deep is probably my favorite DDR stepfile. Fun song.

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