Give it time, Hyro

[Reach]

Whatever. im not gonna argue about it. I also don't give a shit about what you think i can and can't do.

i'd perfer to just end this discussion.

[Arch0wl]

I also don't give a (#$% about what you think i can and can't do.

Yeah, then how come you've said you don't care about 3-4 times, and responded with a flame post?

Don't act like you don't care, or you wouldn't have responded in the first place.

[Yanah_the_Master]

hahaha arch has you there

[makaveli121212]

wow yanah, new avatar...its better than qreepy's...but obviously arch cant handle the fact that reach may just be the best one here, and that reach has taken the throne arch had given himself

[Arch0wl]

Even if he did that 1.5x music on fotbb (which I know he didn't), that's on ONE song. I have way better GENERAL skill. On every score he's posted besides caprice and uber rave(both songs with turns, and you know I'm bad at turns), I've done much better.

Spazz can do a whole lot better than me on payon, but does that make him better than me? No, I can do better on everything else.

Edit: Oh yeah, volkov just joined up, so I guess I'm no longer the best.

[makaveli121212]

i dont know reach is damn good, and i think he could contend with anyone here

[Sinjin]

It may be just one song, but Payon, while an impossible song, really ins't in the same league as FOTBB with mods that seem to put it up to about 800bpm or whatever (something insane). The one song that supposedly Reach can do and you can't is almost too fast to comprehend, and that's where questions of Arch's authority come in, because the song is just on such a higher level.

Getting a slightly higher score on a hard song ins't the same, because it's entirely different to have the brain and the fingers to do FOTBB on double 1.5x

As for having more general skill...well, I'm not going to argue with you, because it's true. You do post consistently higher scores on most songs than Reach, but look at it this way. If Player A consistently got much better scores than Player B on Butterfly or Candy, but Player B can B Caprice, who's better? Not being offensive, just a thought.

[makaveli121212]

i think the best get the highest scores on the most difficult of songs...like caprice or revo; truenewbie a fantastic player, is on every high score list, except for the hard songs, so he is never considered one of the best, correct?

[Equs]

Well...the thing is. With a slow computer on FFR, the arrows will actually move slower. On SM its just going to lag and you're gonna miss....so FFR isn't the greatest way to test someones skill.

Also...getting highscores on easy songs, IMO, is patience, not skill. Its not hard to FC those songs, you just have to sit there and keep trying.

[SoujiroXx]

Reach, I think Arch has got your place wired with fiber-optics to know what you can and can't do, soon he'll take you out.. with a bat even.. like that movie with the mouse that was actually a satellite.. conspiracy.

Anyways, I'm going to make a step file so I can post how awesome I am at it.

Peace

[Arch0wl]

It may be just one song, but Payon, while an impossible song, really ins't in the same league as FOTBB with mods that seem to put it up to about 800bpm or whatever (something insane). The one song that supposedly Reach can do and you can't is almost too fast to comprehend, and that's where questions of Arch's authority come in, because the song is just on such a higher level.

It's easy to read on 1.5x music speed normal arrows, but on 1.5x scroll rate and music speed it's 900 bpm.

Not only that, but you're moving at 8ths at 600 bpm. Keeping that constant rate on almost any keyboard is near impossible. 1.3x is very possible, 1.4x is very very doubtful but still possible although doubtful, 1.5x is pure bullshit. I haven't played on specially designed keyboards but almost all standard keyboards have trouble going at anything beyond 8ths at 500 something at a consistant rate. I'm not talking 5-10 arrows, FOTBB is almost a nonstop consistant rate with only a very very very small portion of small breaks.

And as for the hard song thing...

I'm not talking about easy shit.

On EVERY OTHER hard song besides caprice and uber rave, my scores have been higher. I'm talking max300 iidx oni, payon, etc etc etc you get the idea, I don't want to spend a ton of time researching it.

[Equs]

Humm...interesting. Reach is obviousily quite skilled, but arch is better.

As for the FOTBB thing...i can pass it on 1.3 music speed...i supose you could pass it on 1.5...you can hit arrows at that speed...but you'd have to have the song like memorized. If you started a fraction offbeat, toast.

[Arch0wl]

No, no one could pass it on 1.5. Re read my post.

[Equs]

I read it the first time.

yea....i guess you've got a point there. what about 1.5 music speed, and a slower arrow rate?

[Arch0wl]

What the fuck?

Read my post AGAIN.

Slower arrow scroll speed means shit.

It's the speed that you're pressing them.