American beheaded in Iraq *EDIT*--It was fake,like I thought

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  • JustJono
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2003
    • 283

    #1

    American beheaded in Iraq *EDIT*--It was fake,like I thought

    Quite disturbing.. What are your thoughts on this?

    PS: you can find footage of it on ogrish.com
    Jonathan Cruz

    http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp
  • 87x
    Retired Staff
    • Dec 2002
    • 4379

    #2
    i think its fake... the guy looks like he's strugling, then the camera zooms in real far and obscures everything.. then cuts, and its back on the guy just laying there.. I know that might be because.. of he's dead... but it just looks fake to me..


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    • DJ_Weasel
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2003
      • 209

      #3
      I don't think it's fake. Makes me wanna throw up though. Plus, just look at the rest of the website. It's just a bunch of porn links and stupid videos. So there is a good chance its fake.

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      • jewpinthethird
        (The Fat's Sabobah)
        FFR Music Producer
        • Nov 2002
        • 11711

        #4
        I doubt it is fake. I was watching the news first when I heard about it. They said something about "because of its graphic nature we cannot air it" but it is alright to air shows and movies about that kind of shit for the most part uncensored, but no, not on the news, when it actually happens to real people.

        I can understand why they dont air it though. I am sorry for the family of the dude, that is really horrible. But so is everything else in this world (except for Pizza, Sex, Video Games, MTGl, and FFR.)

        Orgish for the most part, has really videos. I have seen the Russian Soldier beheading video before too. Much more graphic.

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        • FFR Player
          • May 2002
          • 1088

          #5
          ...thats soooo scary. i dont think it's fake. i think i've seen a pic of that first frame of the vid on CNN. with the guys standing behind him. could be wrong tho.

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          • Jam930
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2004
            • 1069

            #6
            sorry, that was me ^
            =/
            -Jamie

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            • CyanoticXtC
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2003
              • 259

              #7
              Nah you're right Jam..
              I believe its real.. But their reason for doing that was so dumb- even though the american soliders were stupid for doing what they did.

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              • Freak83
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Feb 2003
                • 3281

                #8
                I can tell you right now it's true.

                My dad was explaining to me the other day how news is censored by the American government but it's printed freely here in Canada. Basically, it was in the news today about the soldier being beheaded. It did happen.

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                • Kamoa_Han_Senzui
                  FFR Player
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1607

                  #9
                  I saw the video for it in a thread on bemanistyle.
                  It looked damn real to me.
                  And sick.
                  I left the forums, but if you want to talk to me, hit me up on AIM

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                  • Synthlight
                    Administrator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Administrator
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 3057

                    #10
                    It has been the news headline in the US for the last 3-4 days atleast. I think Cnn and the associated press first picked the story up. I believe the video is authentic.

                    Cheers,

                    Synthlight

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                    • Fuman86
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14

                      #11
                      But their reason for doing that was so dumb- even though the american soliders were stupid for doing what they did.
                      It might seem that way, but you have to remember--honor means a whole lot to arabs in general. Considering all the crap that's been circulating around the US, could you not see the source of their outrage? When the Iraqis saw pictures of their countrymen naked and lying on top of each other or naked on the floor, with a leash around their neck, being pulled around by a soldier--they get just a little mad. And for these guys, they can't just petition the government or even directly talk to the media and request change--they did something radical. That's what gets people's attention and that's how they'll be heard. It's a horrible thing, but the terrorists doing this saw it as more or less symbolic retribution for the torture of prisoners. All I'm saying is that they had their reasons. Obviously it was an atrocity, and it's by no means justified, but it's not too farfetched when you look at what we did and consider that these are the extremists of the Arab region.
                      --"Violence begets violence"--
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                      • fusi0n
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 2158

                        #12
                        i agree with fuman 100%.
                        the fact that it was a civilian also makes it worse.
                        and what's supposed to happen to those accused soldiers who tortured the iraqi soldiers?

                        Originally posted by jewpinthethird
                        I have seen the Russian Soldier beheading video before too. Much more graphic.
                        i saw that at. that's some sick shit.

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                        • JustJono
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 283

                          #13
                          I was (and still am) really speechless on this whole subject. Though I've seen worse on ogrish.com, that video of the American being behead.. just got to my stomach (and that NEVER happens.)

                          Like it was mention earlier in this thread, the anger of those Iraqis is quite understandable. But what they did.. just makes me wonder where the human race is going with all this violence.

                          PS: I think the reason it looked fake was because the guy didn't seem to be screaming a whole lot. But then again, everybody in that room was yelling, and the American would have been dead by the time the knife got half way through the artery (sp?). Plus, his head was pretty pale from either lack of lighting or obvious and extreme loss of blood.
                          Jonathan Cruz

                          http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

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                          • Verruckter
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 2707

                            #14
                            I didn't see it and im VERY happy i din't because i'm afraid of blood (trust me, that fear is no fun). It still is inhuman to cut someone's head off, especially in front of cameras.
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                            • RenmazuoGK
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2003
                              • 91

                              #15
                              The man wasn't killed because of the treatment of the Iraqis. It was because he was Jewish. Muhammed proclaimed somewhere, I can't remember where, to kill jews. Hang them, decapitate them, burn their limbs, and other such things. The men are actually praying, not necessarily yelling. People are saying it is because of the treatment of the prisoners because they want to bring down the war. I myself believe that the higher up democrats WANT this war to fail, in an effort to push their man into the office.

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