Being Prejudice On White Men?

[jewpinthethird]

Equal rights, not special rights.

If you want to get rid of racism, you must treat everyone equal, no matter what their skin color (because that is all "race" is). A person from the Domincan Repbulic, who is from a wealthy family that owns a sugar cane farm gets the same privileges as a person of African Heritage who's ancestors were slaves just because of their skin color. Which I think is wrong. I person shouldnt be judged by their skin color, but by their personality, determination, values, etc...thus, I feel affirmative action is wrong.

And white people have done many good things. But they have done many bad things. Just as every race has.

[Cenright]

Ok, here is a proven study done in LA. In an area, there were asian owned small businesses and black owned small businesses.

People were asked who were on the streets, and they were asked the following things:
1.Have you been inside the asian businesses?
2.Have you been inside the black businesses?
3.Do you know the families that run the asian businesses?
4.Do you know the families that run the black businesses?
5.How do you think those asians got those businesses?
6.How do you think those blacks got those businesses?

When suveyers stopped and asked whites, here is the average answers.
1.2. Sometimes.
3.4. Not really, I might know a few a little bit.
5.6 Probably had to work hard, but don't know.

When suveyers stopped and asked Asians, here is the average answers.
1. All the time.
2. Almost Never.
3. Knew almost all the families.
4. Knew almost none.
5. By pouring hard work and time.
6. Guessing by hard work also.

When suveyers stopped and asked blacks, here is the average answers.
1. Never.
2. All the time.
3. Knew none of the families.
4. Knew a few of the families.
5. Had special privilages from the government just cause they are asian.
6. Had to work super hard, despite the government trying to put the owners down.


Conclusion.
Whites didn't seem to care either way, and had gone to both just as if they were businesses.

Asians only went to asian owned businesses, and blacks only went to black owned businesses.
Asians knew their owner and familes very well and most could name big things about them.
Blacks knew ther owner and families fairly little, and only knew them basically by name.

Asians felt all the businesses were formed because of capitolistic methods.
Blacks felt all the businesses were formed because of or in spite of the government conspiracies.



So it seems that all these prejudices are seen only through the eyes of the blacks. They seem to feel that it is all the government making problems for them.
They say that it is the whites with all this racism, but when one of the blacks in their neighborhood starts making the big money because of a good education, they turn on him and say that he is "going white" on the rest of them. Without even thinking about it, the blacks are keeping themselves down, not the whites.


I think that is all I had to say.


-Edit-
Oh Yeah. Rhetorical question.
All the violent music and violent people... are they asians or blacks?

(I left whites out because they are not part of this comparison. They are kinda in the middle with some good and some bad.)

[Anonymous]

Some awesome generalisation happening here .

Just remember, bad things always have happened and do happen everywhere under any leadership. They always have and probably always will. There is no basis for blaming white males for "the state of the world [focused purely on the negatives]" The world is probably in the best situation it ever has been if you look at average quality of life and increasing quality of life, not that it has much to do with the race or gender of world leaders.

Yes I think there is increasing prejudice against white males, but as Homer Simpson once said "I'm a white male aged 18 to 45, everybody listens to me".

[Jello]

i dont have much time here to make a big post. ill just say a quick few things. 1) the egyptians (blacks) enlsaved the white men (jews). 2) the white man (americans) enslaved the black man (american). except for a few small countries in southern africa, slavery is pretty much gone. the slavery thats down there is blacks enslaving blacks. so who the hell cares... i cant say that the whites got what they deserved cuz it was the jews who were enslaved and we (jews) have gone through enough racial problems (egyptians, hitler, fucking arabs who suicide bomb... and no i dont hate arabs i hate those who suicide bomb innocent people..) plus the KKK (dont only target jews) and neo nazis (target jews) so if you count all of that. the white man has really gone through a lot more than the black man... who only went through a few hundred years of slavery vs a few thousand which the white man was enslaved by the egyptians. so really its the black man who has enslaved more than the white man. There have also been other races enslaved but usually they involve enslaving eachother by social status... like a king would have slaves (extreme example) ill end my post here

[Anonymous]

There is a huge prejudice on white men. Yeah, they did a lot of bad things in the past, but it was in the past. Now they have to watch every single move they make today or they'll be targeted with a hate crime. If a white man hits a black man, it's a hate crime, if a black man hits a white man, it's assault or whatever. Blacks can use the N word and whatnot in public, and schools, but if a white man says it the exact same way blacks did, it's a hate crime. I'm sorry but if blacks can call each other *****s and crap, then wouldn't it only be fair for whites to do it too? Two white boys who were raised in Africa were nailed with being racially offensive because they checked "African American" as their heritage.

[RenmazuoGK]

That was me, but it said I was guest for some reason?

[COBOL]

Think about this... with the current caucasian birth rate whites will be the minority by 2050

[Anonymous]

I totally agree. I think affirmative action should really be based on circumstance, not purely on race. Affirmative action aside though, it really is hard to just let the past go and say ok we can start over because these things aren't going on anymore. Reality is though there is still alot of racism out there and there's alot of race bashing from all sides. Nonetheless things are getting better in the U.S. as far as race relations go, and we just happen to be part of the post civil-rights movement generations that's stuck between the intense racism of the past and hopeful equality in the future. Alot of it has persisted because we encourage it with stereotypes, racial jokes, movies, etc. That, and we have to stop being so damn afraid of eachother, acting like just because somebody is different than you. Just because he's black, mexican, white, chinese, japanese, korean, eskimo, w/e doesn't mean he can't appreciate and enjoy the same music, sports, movies, books, etc. that you do and vice versa, that goes for everybody.

Just to finish things off, I noticed somebody metioned that line of equality between men and women. It really is rediculous how sensitive these laws against sexual harassment are getting. Men, do you realize how much power women have just because they're women. Just the other day a girl in my class was like "Girl's can just say he raped me, that's power." Then she gave us an example of what she'd say and I have to admit, it sounded pretty damn convincing. Over here in California there was a story of a group of girls that came forward after accusing a man of rape, getting him convicted, and then after he served eight months in jail they come forward saying it was all made up. You know why they made it up? Because one of the girls broke curfew and she didnt want her mom to know she was with her boyfriend so she tears up her clothes and says a man tried to rape her. Holy shit. One more thing, guys have you noticed the declining men's role in the media? Just to site one example, in family sitcoms who's always the dumbass of the family? Is it the dad or the mom? I rest my case.

[Woodenbox]

Yeah that was my post btw guys, this thing is dumb and always submits me as guest unless i login each time.

[perfect_fat]

"White people" didn't do anything. The issue of racism is simply a systematic attempt by the ruling class to ensure that people focus their attention on lesser matters instead of the bigger picture. People fear and hate things that are different from them. Psychology 101. Everybody is racist whether you'll admit it or not. Doesn't matter if you're a white boy and all your best friends are black, you're still racist somehow.

Do we divide and give people politcally correct sounding names based on their eye and hair colour? That's ridiculous you say? Think about it.

What about tall and short people. Are they not viewed differently? Prejudice is a natural, tribalistic impulse built into our genetic makeup *opinion*.

We learn to control our prejudice, and when we realize that most stereotypes based on skin colour are purely urban legends, we can began to see the real problems in this world.

[Cowtipper89]

Well...and speaking from a totally unbiased, outsider's standpiont...the white man did kind of fuck everything up. Let's see what we've accomplished: Organized religion, slavery, government, terorrism, Bush (XD), etc. So on, and so forth...really, if you look at it, the white man is the reason we are where we are today (notice, where we are today is not a good place). Think back in history- most major wars, political disagreements, racism, and the general attitude toward the world, has all been influenced by us.

I dont necisarrily agree that where we are today is such a bad place. I mean yeah, we have problems, Lots of problems, but if you look at our standard of living compared to EVERY other country in the world, we definetly take the gold. and as much crap politics is out there, I think that to live in such a privlidged lifestyle, we have to deal with it. Without it, our lives would be much worse off.

Oh yes, my comment on the actual subject. Well, I think that white men ARE getting discriminated against by the minorities who so valiantly fought for equal rights in the 1960s. Isn't there something wierd with this. I think its because the democratic party has catered to the needs of the minorities and telling them that they deserved more than the common man, and with the institution of Welfare and other such horrible programs it has become socially acceptable to mooch off the governments money and not get jobs. I think that because so many of these people are in this state, that they yell and scream the loudest, just like a kid when you spoil them, and so politicians can't ignore their demands. So becuase of this, we have things like Affirmative Action, which I Do believe is racist against the majority. So, yeah.

[COBOL]

not bein racist or anything but didn't the black man raise the crime rate. Yea us "krackers" did fuck up a lot of stuff but so did the muslims with their terrorism, and if your against firearms (I'm not) the chinese man invented gun powder.

[perfect_fat]

Saying that black people made the crime rate rise isn't quite right.

Poverty is the root behind most crime, and if you look at the amount of african-americans in poverty, compared to whites, and apply that to the ratio of blacks to whites in prison, the numbers aren't far off.

The "muslims" with their "terrorism" is just a response to the US and Israeli terrorism that they've been facing. I'm not trying to justify it, but I feel a lot of americans have looked at their country and thought "Why would they attack us?" without looking into US foreign policy for the last 50 years and finding out why the extremists have targeted their country.

[C104K3D]

Unfortunately, I highly doubt the past would be looked in to to decide who deserves the education more.
I can't really think of much on this topic atm =/

[DracIV]

Specific note to jewpin: WTF is Bush doing in there with KKK and Neo-Nazis? What the heck did he do that was evil or racist? He did what he felt was best for America, fighting back in a war against us that had already been going on for many years. Also, stealing land from the Native Americans? It's called conquering.

Back to the rest: some of the stuff people said here is total junk. "White man" may have done a lot of bad things, but so did everyone else, we're just the most sucessful with our good things. Europeans aren't the only ones who had slavery, they were just the most obvious. WM may have oppressed many, but so did everyone else. However, WM also invented freedom and democracy. Who else did that on their own?

The "Go drive in your SUV to Starbucks and get a hot cup of STFU" is obviously a stereotype. How many people own an SUV? Not THAT many. How many visit Starbucks? Only those in cities. How many adhere to all the pathetic images people try and force on Americans? Few. We aren't greedy, close-minded, or selfish. Only the gullible believe that. Look around you and learn how people really are.

About the minorities scholarships, etc. The reason for this is to allow determined individuals to escape from their cultures, which are holding them down. No, it is not to help them fight against the "unfair whites." It is to help them get away from those others who would hold them down. I can give a specific example: the "ghetto dwellers" culture of black americans. The culture itself drags people down, encourages continuation of poor conditions and encourages people to keep others down with them. Even violent actions are commonly used to prevent people from escaping their culture, but many of those who do escape (especially in the example) are considered removed from the culture entirely. An example I have seen of this is the insult where black guys say someone like Collin Powell is white because they have a respectable position and are earning their own wealth.
[Edit] Cenright made this point perfectly for me (I missed her post)

There is a major reverse-descrimination problem in the world when you look. This is a truly major topic if people cared to pay enough attention to the things around them to see all the nuances that effect the truth. It's nice to see that atleast a few do.