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  • Master_of_PARANOiA
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2003
    • 1599

    #16
    Originally posted by Laharl
    If the Democrats win the elections, it's because Bush lost it, not because Dean wins it.
    god laharl, you're just a giant book of intelligence, aren't you? lol
    Afrobean16 (8:58:05 PM): you're evil incarnate

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    • User6773

      #17
      Dean won't be elected by the Democrats because of his horribly unpresidential attitudes and campaign strategy. He acts like he's a rock star or something.

      And need I say AYYYOWWWWW!? That pretty much ruined his career. Here's how it will work. If Dean loses New Hampshire (which he will), it's over for him. If Edwards wins or gets close 2nd in NH, Kerry will win. If Kerry wins in a close contest in NH, Edwards wins. If Kerry wins by a vast margin, Kerry wins.

      But none of them can beat Bush.

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      • Mandragora
        FFR Player
        • May 2003
        • 44

        #18
        Agreed x10.

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        • deathstar402
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2004
          • 8

          #19
          Originally posted by Laharl
          If the Democrats win the elections, it's because Bush lost it, not because Dean wins it.
          i see. and about my avatar, i didnt have a death star one because thats too predictable. i could change it but for now its an avatar from another forum i use (if you know me from That forum, however unlikely, BLOW MY FUCKING ASS THIS IS FFR NOT UR... SHIT SO FUCK OFF!)

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          • deathstar402
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2004
            • 8

            #20
            oh thats @ss they censor my words! i look like an idiot now

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            • FFR Player
              • May 2002
              • 1088

              #21
              ok deathstar grow up.. second of all. Bush is a complete idiot. I think he doesnt deserve to lead the united states for a second term. He couldnt catch osama so he turned the peoples attention to saddam. there is no proof of weapons of (this is the key word) MASS destruction. no biochemical warefar. no nuclear bombs were found. the country is just to fucking poor , and saddam is greedy. so saddam probably just said "why spend billions making weapons when i can keep it and live nicely". Bush used saddam to take america's mind off the fact that they couldnt find osama. Also he invaded iraq for thier oil. americans cant defend it. 2 weeks after the war was over , the united states asked the UN if they could control the use of iraqie oil... they used some dumbshit excuse saying they will use it to rebuild iraq. so far i havent seen any rebuilding anywhere. And the economy. Before bush became president , the canadian dollar was at 70 cents to the US dollar. Now it frequently reaches 80 cents (which is A LOT). The US is falling further in debt. Bush also sent men to iraq for fuetal causes. he sacrified LIVES just for oil and to keep the people's minds off osama. so what if he caught saddam. wtf are they going to do with him? talk him to death? Now i know he was an evil man and he tortured people , stole thier money (on of my best friends family were rich iraqies... saddam stole thier fortune and they had to come to canada to escape him) and caused suffering amungst the people of iraq.. he will surely die after going through the world court, but still bush has solved nothing. He cleaned up a united states mess (the US put saddam in power) and took the minds off osama's attack on september 11, as well as gaining a bit of money (and i use the term BIT loosely) in the process.. Do not re-elect that dislexic retard who wants the whole world to be like the USA.

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              • Jello
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2007
                • 612

                #22
                fucking piece of shit. that last post was me ... synth if you read this why does ffr sign you out automatically after a short period of time of not going through the site?

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                • Synthlight
                  Administrator
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Administrator
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 3057

                  #23
                  Jello, The US did not put Saddam in power. Saddam took over IRAQ many years ago with his baath party supporters. Way before the whole Iran thing went down.

                  Cheers,

                  Synthlight

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                  • Systolic0205
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 20

                    #24
                    Dean is going to out of the running VERY soon.. He lost over $2,000,000 advertising in New Hampshire in the Primaries... and he LOST! He's broke! Kerry is going to get the Democratic ticket, obviously, and public demand wants Bush, though he's a complete idiot who looks like Elian Gonzalez... I'm just glad that Al Sharpden is out of the running.

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                    • makaveli121212
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2003
                      • 3823

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Anonymous
                      ok deathstar grow up.. second of all. Bush is a complete idiot. I think he doesnt deserve to lead the united states for a second term. He couldnt catch osama so he turned the peoples attention to saddam. there is no proof of weapons of (this is the key word) MASS destruction. no biochemical warefar. no nuclear bombs were found. the country is just to #$#ing poor , and saddam is greedy. so saddam probably just said "why spend billions making weapons when i can keep it and live nicely". Bush used saddam to take america's mind off the fact that they couldnt find osama. Also he invaded iraq for thier oil. americans cant defend it. 2 weeks after the war was over , the united states asked the UN if they could control the use of iraqie oil... they used some dumbshit excuse saying they will use it to rebuild iraq. so far i havent seen any rebuilding anywhere. And the economy. Before bush became president , the canadian dollar was at 70 cents to the US dollar. Now it frequently reaches 80 cents (which is A LOT). The US is falling further in debt. Bush also sent men to iraq for fuetal causes. he sacrified LIVES just for oil and to keep the people's minds off osama. so what if he caught saddam. wtf are they going to do with him? talk him to death? Now i know he was an evil man and he tortured people , stole thier money (on of my best friends family were rich iraqies... saddam stole thier fortune and they had to come to canada to escape him) and caused suffering amungst the people of iraq.. he will surely die after going through the world court, but still bush has solved nothing. He cleaned up a united states mess (the US put saddam in power) and took the minds off osama's attack on september 11, as well as gaining a bit of money (and i use the term BIT loosely) in the process.. Do not re-elect that dislexic retard who wants the whole world to be like the USA.
                      youre dumber than hell and have little clue what you are talking about...yuo think the only reason we went into iraq was because of oil...it was pretty obvious we were going there to find chemical.biological wepaons...yes it is true that we didnt find as many as expected...but is that ush's fault or maybe the weapons inspectors who predicted how many there would be...can you admit that iraq wasnt a threat to the world...can you admit that the iraqi people were not repressed...the fact is the US troops went and saved lives...who knows how many would have died before saddam, was finally taken out of power...btw if you havent seen any rebuilding being done in iraq just ask the people that live there, maybe there hasnt been done physically to rebuild the state, but they have definately rebuilt the peoples' spirit...the US is not falling in debt, the economy took a slight downturn in the last week after a huge couple of months...laslty we have never had or eyes off of osama...we have had troops there the whole time searching for him...now, just a few days ago our soldiers in afghanistan have cornered a number of al-quada troops, and al-quada cannot run for much longer...and if you think that anyone will ever forget about 9/11 and osama you really dont know what youre talking about
                      Originally posted by VxDx
                      Stick it in her butt and pee.

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                      • FFR Player
                        • May 2002
                        • 1088

                        #26
                        Synth what you speak is true. But it is also true that we supported Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq war. Attached to this post I have a picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. There is some merit to Jello's comment, though his exact wording was off. We also supported an organization that Osama bin Laden was part of during the 1980's in efforts to foil the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. So, in essence, we have helped many of our enemies come to power. However, I would also argue that this administration has done a lot of good in taking the threats out of power. 9/11 would have happened no matter who was President, but I believe that the liberal base that Al Gore needed to portray at all times, especially during a possible first term, would have made him act differently and not like a Hawk, which I believe was the appropriate mindset for the time. But that's besides the point, will Dean win the democratic primary, probably not, Kerry has a few advantages. These including the veteran background and his lack of extremist views. But will any of the Democratic candidates win against the incumbent, Dubya, highly unlikely. In matters of politics the incumbent always has the advantage. Bush has free press, free postage, the advantage of being in office already, and the capture of Saddam Hussein under his belt. In addition the economy is on the uprise, and the economy is the number one indicator of whether or not the incumbent will get elected again. Just a few things to keep in mind when debating.

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                        • Specforces
                          Yes
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 5028

                          #27
                          BTW that ^^^^ was me
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                          • jewpinthethird
                            (The Fat's Sabobah)
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 11711

                            #28
                            I dont like bush, but I dont like the democrating candidates either.

                            The facts are that the world is against the United States. Anyone who does not see that is ignorant. Anyone who ignores the fact that there were millions of protesters of this "Iraqi Freedom" War around the world is just plain dumb. Anyone who ignores that fact that the Bush Administartion lied to the U.N. as well as the people of the United States is arrogant. Anyone who doesnt believe history repeats itself, is doomed to repeat it.

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                            • Anticrombie0909
                              FFR Player
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 4683

                              #29
                              The facts are that the world is against the United States.
                              Precisely. We've turned outselves into a militiant, police nation, that feels obligated to control the rest of the world. Why do you think other countries hate us? Our military is more powerful than theirs, and they know it, we have more political influcence than any other single nation, we're rich and dumb, and our country is 200 years old. Of course they hate us. Iraq was not a necessary cause. It may have been a good cause- but it was an unecessary one, especilaly with the less than warm feelings toward the US recently. If Saddam got on the news and said 'US I hate you, we're gonna nuke you' it would have been different- but look at it this way, from Saddam's standpoint. He's having fun leading his country, when Bush gets up there and starts talking about Iraq having weapons, which then turns into Iraq planning to fire them at the US, which then turns into a quest to overthrow Saddam and completely revolutionize his country! And we wonder why 9/10 of the civilized world hates us...

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                              • makaveli121212
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2003
                                • 3823

                                #30
                                what does the world hating us have to do with anything...just becasue er are better than everyone else doesnt matter to me...it doesnt matter to me that they hate us...it isnt going to change unless our country goes poor...so ill take a rich prosporous country that is hated than a poor uncontrolled third world country that no one gives a damn about
                                Originally posted by VxDx
                                Stick it in her butt and pee.

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