creating a gov./society

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  • runeblade29
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2003
    • 5

    #1

    creating a gov./society

    well... since a lot of people think the government/society is pretty messed up, u can put your ideas for new one here.
    here's an idea:
    Anything that u need to live (medicines ,surgeries, food) should be free.
  • Feuergeist
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 869

    #2
    Hello Mr. Socialist.



    Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
    Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

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    • Master_of_PARANOiA
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2003
      • 1599

      #3
      Hello Mr. Postwhore, I'm Mista Postwhore, nice to meet you.
      Afrobean16 (8:58:05 PM): you're evil incarnate

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      • Cenright
        You thought I was a GUY?!
        • Sep 2003
        • 3139

        #4
        Socialism is right around the block from communism. It has been proven time an again, that when a government gets to big into the economy, there are always problems.
        Like:
        China
        Russia
        India
        Iraq
        Afganistan
        http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

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        • subadobe
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2004
          • 1

          #5
          Socialism only results in communism simply because someone always wants more power. The idea of socialism is theoretically a very good idea.

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          • jewpinthethird
            (The Fat's Sabobah)
            FFR Music Producer
            • Nov 2002
            • 11711

            #6
            Socialism would be the best...but it just isnt going to happen.

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            • 87x
              Retired Staff
              • Dec 2002
              • 4379

              #7
              health care should be free, this lady had to work through her kimo treatment because she could only get health care if she worked.. thats shity dude..


              RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer.
              87x: more like.. professional goth.

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              • Moogy
                嗚呼
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2003
                • 10303

                #8
                Yeah, Socialism is the best form of government, in theory, but it's never been successfully executed. It probably never will be, either.
                Plz visit my blog

                ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

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                • BluE_MeaniE
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 796

                  #9
                  I agree. The idea of socialism is great. But it just can't work, because people don't work that way.
                  It could work with robots, but not with real people.
                  Originally posted by Henri Poincaré
                  The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful.

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                  • makaveli121212
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2003
                    • 3823

                    #10
                    maybe you guys should start your own country...like really really far away from me
                    Originally posted by VxDx
                    Stick it in her butt and pee.

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                    • Mandragora
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2003
                      • 44

                      #11
                      It's fairly incorrect to say socialism works in theory, because it just doesn't. It assumes people will not sin, will not want, will not have a problem being ordered around. The theory is one based on a false reality that cannot exist while there are independent nations, or while people want there to be. Socialism promotes the utopian society, which cannot be on Earth. If Earth is heaven, heaven is not.

                      Besides, in order to actually be able to begin practicing socialist doctrines, the socialists must first take over the control of the country in question and begin giving orders. All people must bow before the (temporarily) totalitarian regime. For any country to become socialist, it must first be communist. Because communism is so ill-received, the communist regime must stay in power long enough to eliminate all threats the the governed society. What you have is an indefinite stay of communism in the goal of attaining socialism. It's inherently unreasonable and will not work. End of story.

                      The same situation in the above paragraph applies equally well to anarchy. One must rally people together in a form of military so as not to be instantly annexed by a country that actually has a government. The moment you have that military and leaders taking charge of it, you have a basic governing body, and you are no longer anarchist. So that school of thought is entirely self-contradictory.

                      CAPITALISM OWNZ j00!

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                      • BluE_MeaniE
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 796

                        #12
                        That's why it works only "in theory."
                        Because in theory, you say there could be a group of people who "will not sin, will not want, will not have a problem being ordered around."
                        In theory, if you got those kind of people, then it would work.
                        But it doesn't work, because you can't get those people.
                        And you're right, you couldn't change a country into socialism, either, without problems. Which is why it doesn't work, in the end.

                        But maybe I'm entirely wrong. In fact, that's very possible. But I hope not.
                        Originally posted by Henri Poincaré
                        The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful.

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                        • makaveli121212
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2003
                          • 3823

                          #13
                          socialism can never work...NEVER....to say that if you work really really hard and will get nothing for it is just stupid...its like Office Space...why work hard if there is no reward...no incentive...i dont know why you guys feel socialism is good...basically it says everyone is equal in every way...that measn the hard work you do in school doesnt mean shit...you get paid for being a scientist the same the bum gets paid for labor...socialism is more than just social standing its alos about the economy, and that just doesnt fly with me...i should get rewarded for working hard...dont you think thats fair
                          Originally posted by VxDx
                          Stick it in her butt and pee.

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                          • BluE_MeaniE
                            FFR Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 796

                            #14
                            It can't work, I agree. It won't work either. But I still think it is a good idea. Nobody has a hard time, everyone is equal. You work, you get paid.
                            Of course that is my opinion, but still....

                            It can not work. It just can't.
                            Originally posted by Henri Poincaré
                            The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful.

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                            • FFR Player
                              • May 2002
                              • 1088

                              #15
                              Socialism is the ultimate uniform society. It's spost to be set up so everyone works for the same pay, gets the same things(I.E. free med care, stuff like that). But, it never works because there will always be people trying to overthrow the existing one in hopes for a better running more well oiled society. It of course eventualy breaks down to communism, and often dictatorships.

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