Read the rules!!!
Posted in Flash Flash Revolution on August 10th, 2011
There have been quite a few updates to the rules of the site. Please read.
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/announcement.php?f=14&a=52
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Posted at 8:58pm on August 10th, 2011
Can’t wait for August 11, 2037
Posted at 9:00pm on August 10th, 2011
Yep, but until then, follow the rules
Posted at 9:14pm on August 10th, 2011
Why is it only good for 26 years?
-sigh- Does this mean you guys will be cracking down on it all more, or is this just simply to restate everything for those who don’t really know?
Posted at 9:17pm on August 10th, 2011
what is new?
Posted at 9:22pm on August 10th, 2011
Nice job.
Posted at 9:25pm on August 10th, 2011
Just out of curiously, who’s going to stay here for next 26 years? Just saying. :s
Posted at 9:27pm on August 10th, 2011
Will do? xD
Posted at 9:38pm on August 10th, 2011
Well done with the rules.
Hopefully now people can follow ‘em.
Posted at 10:48pm on August 10th, 2011
I’m sure I’ll end up breaking one eventually.
Posted at 10:57pm on August 10th, 2011
FFR is sirius biznez
Posted at 11:10pm on August 10th, 2011
This is NOT ending up well at all…
Posted at 11:13pm on August 10th, 2011
free kommi
Posted at 11:13pm on August 10th, 2011
rip FFR forums
Posted at 11:14pm on August 10th, 2011
love how you get banned for disrespecting the staff. seems like an abuse of power for that but whatever
Posted at 11:14pm on August 10th, 2011
In Soviet FFR….
Posted at 11:19pm on August 10th, 2011
@Demon: No the (good) staff that actually do what they’re supposed to, they deserve respect.
The fact half of you guys are like “free Kiwi” and “free Kommi” is hilarious, they almost literally asked to be banned.
Posted at 11:35pm on August 10th, 2011
REMEMBER NINJAKOMMI DAY 8/11/11
Posted at 11:42pm on August 10th, 2011
NEVER FORGET <3
Posted at 12:02am on August 11th, 2011
stop brown-nosing, Middie
Posted at 12:31am on August 11th, 2011
FREE KOMMI
Posted at 1:27am on August 11th, 2011
What exactly changed from the past rules?
Posted at 1:39am on August 11th, 2011
i actually took the time to read the rules. what changed?? was it the forums that they were focusing on the most??
Posted at 4:47am on August 11th, 2011
I seriously don’t want to be a mod now, lol
Posted at 5:05am on August 11th, 2011
The users getting butt-hurt are the same users who are going to, want to, or like to break the “new” rules. Suck it up kids.
Posted at 7:22am on August 11th, 2011
Good job.
Posted at 7:49am on August 11th, 2011
I don’t understand why you guys are upset. Pretty much nothing changes the difference is they are better explained than they we’re. We wanted to also make it known that the rules applied to the chats as well as the forums. These aren’t exactly difficult rules to follow. We just want a nice environment for users of all ages. There are plenty of other sites you can gain your pg13 plus entertainment from.
Posted at 9:43am on August 11th, 2011
i noticed how ninjaKIWI and kommisar are banned. is this from the free kiwi and free kommi threads?
Posted at 9:57am on August 11th, 2011
There’s rules to FFR?
Posted at 1:31pm on August 11th, 2011
I love how the mods on this website try to act like little tyrants. Constantly telling people what they can’t do and not what they can. I guess if running FFR was the only job in sight for me, I would try to make it a little more fun by bossing people around and pretending I’m important but really? Treat your users with a little more respect.
Posted at 1:44pm on August 11th, 2011
demonllama, exactly. I have like 12,000 games played and have had to interact with the staff on a handful of occasions. Every time I was treated like I was a low life because I’m not part of the FFR elite. If you say something about the poor customer service, they BAN you. Awesome, I will probably get banned for this. Honestly though, this is a DDR game, why all the rules, just chill out and let people have a good time. I don’t get why every rule is anti-porn either, I have never seen pornography posted on here so it seems like a moot point.
Posted at 1:53pm on August 11th, 2011
-Bumping an old thread for no good reason – Maybe to the person bumping there is a good reason.
-Frequent use of text speak. – Seriously, I’ll get in trouble for saying, IDK instead of I don’t know, wow.
-Quoting an obscenely long post – Seriously?
-Making a nonsense post.- What exactly constitutes an nonsense post, is it just up for you dickheads to decide?
-Requesting illegal content (MP3s/roms/warez/etc.)- MP3′s are not illegal, they are an audio file format.
-Disrespect of staff – Why shouldn’t the staff get some disrespect thrown their way? They disrespect the users on a daily basis.
So I guess I’m banned now, just for stating my opinion. Well, it’s not like I really play this shit anymore anyway.
Posted at 2:21pm on August 11th, 2011
You never specify what constitutes “illegal content.”
Posted at 2:23pm on August 11th, 2011
Nor do you highlight the new content in the rules section.
Posted at 2:28pm on August 11th, 2011
above: you sound insanely bitter. honestly, none of the rules are unreasonable.
“Maybe to the person bumping there is a good reason.”
pretty sure they would only ban for this in extreme cases.
“Seriously, I’ll get in trouble for saying, IDK instead of I don’t know, wow.”
FREQUENT use of text speak. isnt t annoyng wen ppl make evry wrd tuff 2 decifr
“MP3?s are not illegal, they are an audio file format.”
some mp3s are illegal to share.
not even sure why I bothered responding. I guess I’m just bothered by people who act professional but are really just pouting.
Posted at 2:33pm on August 11th, 2011
@sk1mNskat3
Rofl…
1. If there is a good reason to bump it, it’ll prolly be understood by staff.
2. “Frequent” just don’t abuse…
3. I agree with you but I don’t know how long it means…
4. Just don’t pick a random thread and post “I’m a retarded carrot.”
5. I don’t know much about this…
6. Why would you even want to disrespect someone ? Unless you’re a troll or want to flame people, which is not accepted according to the rules, there is no reason to complain about it seriously.
If they were to ban you for your post, it would be because of “Dickheads” lmao, not for your opinion haha :3
Posted at 2:53pm on August 11th, 2011
I would rather a consistency with enforcement and I hope that this rehashing of the rules and their rewording encourages the staff to act together as one unit. Better that then dealing with 3 staffers who sternly enforce the rules (or certain parts of them) then have 5 other inactive ones who do little more then spam and attack prochat.
Not that it isn’t occasionally amusing when I get slapped a dozen times and kicked ‘just cuz’, but you need to decide if you’re going to be a “rules are a guideline, use common sense” staff, or a “these rules are law” staff. You can’t have a dozen people randomly picking sides.
Posted at 3:53pm on August 11th, 2011
I do actually have one question in regards to this: when you say discuss “illegal activities,” what set of illegal activities would that be? There are some things that are legal in one country (or even state) but not in another, should the topic just be avoided altogether?
Posted at 3:54pm on August 11th, 2011
“No the (good) staff that actually do what they’re supposed to, they deserve respect.”
I agree they deserve respect, but any body who disrespects staff should be considered a flamer/troll and should be respectfully ignored, like you ask us users to do. idk, that’s my two cents on the staff disrespect rule.
Posted at 4:13pm on August 11th, 2011
@patricoo, that was kinda the point of this was for us to be able to more consistently enforce the rules.
@alloyus, the main thing I can give off the top of my head is drug related stuff.
Posted at 5:08pm on August 11th, 2011
@ xopkills whatever… If I got banned for the word dickheads, that would be pretty sad. I’ve been on some fairly uptight forum websites before, but I’m pretty sure I would be able to get away with the word “Dickhead” even on there.
Posted at 5:15pm on August 11th, 2011
I guess my frustration is due to the fact that I haven’t logged on in like 4 months because I was treated like an ass by the staff and now I log back on to play a few games and the first thing I see is NEW RULES, as if the FFR community is some sort of unruly, outlandish community. I just don’t understand it, no new songs, no FFR3 or whatever it was allegedly called, just a bunch of new bullshit rules, so the mods can have power over the users and feel important and it pisses me off, I am sorry i’m the only one who feels this way.
Posted at 5:57pm on August 11th, 2011
I understand your point but the rules aren’t that hard to respect seriously… Don’t troll/flame, don’t post porn/illegal stuff, don’t mess with forum if you don’t know how. If the mods/admins aren’t your friends then don’t talk to them lmao. If they’ve been treating you like an ass there’s a reason because I rarely talk with any mod and I don’t have any problem with them haha. I’m here to play this game and have fun with people, not to judge their work. :3
Posted at 6:30pm on August 11th, 2011
No new songs? There is plenty. Quite honestly there shouldn’t have to be any issue with the staff… Pretty much any issues I see happening are due to people being hot-headed and losing their temper or getting overly defensive…
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FFR3 was Thirdstyle, which was allegedly a joke. But a group of [see prior statement] hot-heads who didn’t like the way the community was running decided to go and make it a reality. It exists but has virtually nothing to do with FFR itself. http://www.thirdstyle.com if you want to check it out and praise their community too.
Posted at 6:35pm on August 11th, 2011
I think we should take the rules seriously, to a degree, but if we are constantly watching each other to spot a mistake, then FFR is no longer a game. Just a disorganized community of vicious watchdogs.
Posted at 6:43pm on August 11th, 2011
I’m just curious about how “Having someone else play for you on your account” is cheating, just in the sense of what defines “someone else”. If it is against the rules for multiple users to use an account, that should be stated outright. Otherwise, where is the line drawn? If I decide to quit FFR and give my password to a friend so that they can play on this account, is that cheating? Only one person will be using that account at that point. I also question how it can be cheating when “someone else” implies the fact that a single person is tied to an account, yet since it is the internet, “you” can only be defined as an account and not the person behind the screen.
The rule is just very vague and while I understand the intentions of it, the only way to make this rule concrete and enforceable is to ban multiple people on the same account with which I disagree.
Posted at 6:43pm on August 11th, 2011
also the rest of the rules are reasonable and have my full support, I don’t mean to be overly negative
Posted at 7:07pm on August 11th, 2011
I’m not someone who is really active in the forums, but I don’t understand why everyone is complaining or why every time there is something that changes on the site, people go on a rant and complain until they realize it’s not going to go back to normal and they just have to get used to it. It’s not like the site or the personalities of the staff are going to change. Instead of people being unaware of what they were being banned for, they made it clear by stating those reasons in the rules of the website.
Obviously there are exceptions for some of those rules, and the staff knows that, so people need to stop attacking them for things they already know and understand. Also, if you’re really THAT worried about the rules, then you already know that you’ve been getting away with things you already know are wrong. Everyone just needs to chill out, get over it and realize that FFR is still the same site it was a few days ago.
Posted at 7:34pm on August 11th, 2011
Hey sk1mNskat3, if you’re having issues with your treatment by the staff, let me know and we’ll have a look at it. I can’t say I remember your name as someone I’ve interacted with, but I don’t nor would I allow other staff to treat the users with disrespect unless they’ve gone far out of their way to earn it.
As for the various objections people are posting to various of the minor offenses, I’ll clarify a few for you.
1. Bumping. I don’t think a single user has been banned for bumping old threads unless it was completely worthless “butts lol” bumping of like, 20 threads at once time. The general response to a worthless bump of an old thread is to delete the post, which pushes the thread back down into the depths. That’s it.
Textspeak: This is a forum, not a chat. It’s not hard to type whole words, and this has been a rule for years. Again, something almost nobody gets banned for. The only one I can think of in the past -year- is Aldentron, and he was warned twice, then banned for 1 day, then banned for 3 days when he kept on about it.
Quoting obscenely long posts: This is basically a “If you see wrong things, leave them alone” rule. If someone posts a massive page-stretch image or ten pages long of spam, they get banned. If you quote it, even to say “This is spam, knock it off” you’re creating the exact same amount of spam. You should just leave it alone. Again, I can’t think of anybody I’ve ever banned for quoting non-pornographic non-racist posts.
Nonsense posts: This is obvious. Exactly like the bumping, if the post has nothing to do with the thread, and contributes nothing, 99.999999% of the time, it gets deleted with no further action.
Illegal content: The site is American. Things which are illegal in America are not allowed here. Things which are legal in America and illegal elsewhere are generally fine. So women are allowed to post about how they drive cars and wear pants, but you can’t ask for illegal downloaded content. The example of mp3s means “Illegal mp3s” as in “Mp3s to which you don’t own distribution rights”
Disrespect of staff: For one, this is generally either trolling or flaming when it happens, and is bannable for that -anyway- but the basic impetus behind the rule is not somehow suggesting that the mods are all perfect people who can never be criticized. The issue is that a post like sk1mNskat3′s (minus the dickheads part) is not disrespectful, but is raising valid points about the rules. That’s fine. It’s when people post giant long-winded profanity filled rants about how much they hate the staff that we have problems.
Posted at 7:36pm on August 11th, 2011
People are crying because the new rules are life changing or something, but I don’t frequent the forums much, so I don’t know. I guess it’s devastating. lol 0.o The rules seem pretty legit to me.
Posted at 8:50pm on August 11th, 2011
Can’t you ds for vrofl challenge? Is this just meant no ds for getting scores?
Posted at 8:51pm on August 11th, 2011
The rules pretty much haven’t changed, as far as I can remember…just some slight updates..
Posted at 9:00pm on August 11th, 2011
Devonin you are a saint, seriously~
Posted at 1:53am on August 13th, 2011
@dore it’s mostly a rule that’s for say.. if someone unlocked Scarhand, and the person who owns that account clearly cannot AAA Reality. The rule seems pretty legit. But other than that, if someone played a song on your account and got a lower score than on yours I don’t see the hurt in that.
Posted at 2:23am on August 13th, 2011
Yeah, dore gets that; it’s just that he questions how this rule is enforced when one account does not necessarily mean one person…whether it’s simultaneous sharing or whether it’s giving your old account to your brother or sister. The answer is that there’s no way to tell; it is assumed that one account is one person, and any variations to this will probably not be taken into consideration.
The rule has good intentions, but it’s not perfect – it’s hard to tie every knot.
Posted at 6:01am on August 13th, 2011
So… About the inappropriate name bit….
Posted at 7:36am on August 13th, 2011
“Yeah, dore gets that; it’s just that he questions how this rule is enforced when one account does not necessarily mean one person”
One account means one person. Your account belongs to you, the person who created it, and nobody else. Anybody who isn’t you who plays on your account risks punishments on that account. If someone else logs into your account and posts nudity on the forum say…the fact that it wasn’t -you- who did it doesn’t matter, and your account will still be banned.
Likewise, if someone else is logging scores on your account, that’s similarly not allowed. Obviously if someone who is new to the game wants to try it and you let them play a few, that’s no big deal. The rule is in place to prevent you getting -better- players to earn you tokens or other prizes (Like playing for you in a tournament etc).
Hard to catch, but it’s still not allowed, and we watch for it.
Posted at 3:04pm on August 13th, 2011
This all sounds very interesting.
Posted at 4:57pm on August 13th, 2011
devonin I don’t remember who the staff member was it was about 5 years ago wayy back when FFR had like 50 songs on it haha. I was just asking a noobish question and was treated as if I was incompetent because of the question I asked. I’m not worried about that issue, I just like how the only thing that regularly gets updated are the stupid rules, most of them are common sense and don’t need to be mentioned, while others are just pointless, if my friend wants to play on my account for a few games, that’s not cheating, I mean how the hell would you even figure that out, odds are my friends would be worse than I am anyway since I used to play this game a lot. I’m not saying all the rules are dumb, I just don’t get why the staff insists on trying to be authoritative, it just gives a bad vibe to the forums/website when every time you say something the mods lock it because it doesn’t adhere to the rules.
Posted at 8:11pm on August 13th, 2011
You guys should put it in the rules and during the registration process, then, that an account is for one person’s use. It’ll make the whole thing more airtight
Posted at 8:11pm on August 13th, 2011
Agreed with dore.
Posted at 9:38pm on August 13th, 2011
The rules seem reasonable.
The one I kind of don’t agree with, though, is the no appeals.
Like, what if a mod was grumpy one day and took it out on someone? Or if they legitimately made a mistake?
Maybe having a limited amount of appeals per time period would be more fair? I dunno. It’s your site, do whatever you think is best
Posted at 11:05pm on August 13th, 2011
YOU BROKE THE ROOLZ. sorry. blue wool ._.;
Posted at 9:31am on August 14th, 2011
“The rules seem reasonable.
The one I kind of don’t agree with, though, is the no appeals.
Like, what if a mod was grumpy one day and took it out on someone? Or if they legitimately made a mistake?
Maybe having a limited amount of appeals per time period would be more fair? I dunno. It’s your site, do whatever you think is best”
Appeals = talking to the mod that banned you, or an admin if that does not work. We encourage that.
Posted at 9:54am on August 14th, 2011
The issue is people who ban evade and make threads on the forum demanding to be unbanned, or convince other users to make threads demanding they be unbanned.
Absolutely talk to the mod who banned you, or if you have and are unsatisfied with the outcome, the administrator in charge of the place you were banned from.
“if my friend wants to play on my account for a few games, that’s not cheating, I mean how the hell would you even figure that out, odds are my friends would be worse than I am anyway since I used to play this game a lot.”
Just because it might be hard to figure out doesn’t make it not against the rules. And as I already said, the rule doesn’t care about a buddy playing a couple games and logging a few scores to try out the site. It cares about you getting a superior player to earn you tokens, get you AAAs and win you tournement prizes.
Posted at 12:14am on August 15th, 2011
NOU read the rules!
Posted at 6:03pm on August 15th, 2011
I think you should put a star, or some sort of note next to the updated rules, so those who need clarification, will only need to look for some sort of indication as to where the change has been made. Should save a lot of time and most people wouldn’t have to ask the same question over and over again.
Just my opinion.
Posted at 6:17pm on August 15th, 2011
Seriously, you guys should just chill out with all the rules. How has no one said that yet, everyone is cool with hundreds of rules for an online flash game website?
Posted at 6:18pm on August 15th, 2011
Or, get rid of the forums, since no one cares who can AAA Delerium, just make it a simple game, like it used to be back in the day.
Posted at 6:54pm on August 15th, 2011
@sk1mNskat3
You obvious have so many reasons to complain about the website, yet you keep coming back.
Posted at 6:54pm on August 15th, 2011
*obviously
Sorry for double post.
Posted at 7:53pm on August 15th, 2011
@sk1Nskat3 I don’t understand why you’re freaking out. It’s not like we’re asking that much. They are simple rules to keep the forums friendly for all different age groups. A 13yr old doesn’t need to see pornography posted all over the forums and I don’t think that’s unfair or unreasonable. Plus you’re acting like these rules are anything new when they are almost the same rules that have been in place for years but better explained.
Posted at 8:04pm on August 15th, 2011
I feel like i’m watching an episode of ghost in the shell
Posted at 1:52am on August 16th, 2011
I think people wouldn’t be so adverse to the rules if they were worded differently.
For example, “disrespect of staff” can be interpreted as a myriad of things, from name-calling (which many would perceive as ridiculous for a ban) to absolute raging and long-winded ranting (which seems more justified). That’s why it’s better if the rules provide examples, no matter how self-explanatory they seem to be. Devonin’s example above for instance should be put into the official rules instead of having the users guess at what “disrespect of staff means”. If you want users to take the rules more seriously, you better word it in a way that sounds less aggressive. It’s all about perception.
I HIGHLY recommend having the rules modified to minimize doubts, maintain a friendly atmosphere, and to prevent mods from explaining things over and over.
Posted at 10:48am on August 16th, 2011
I guess I shouldn’t log in to my Synthlight account now, huh?
-o24
Posted at 10:57am on August 16th, 2011
sk1mNskat3
“Or, get rid of the forums, since no one cares who can AAA Delerium, just make it a simple game, like it used to be back in the day.”
There has been a forum for 99% of the time the website has been online. Just saying.
Posted at 12:25pm on August 16th, 2011
I agree with bmah
Posted at 10:53pm on August 16th, 2011
People are butthurt because they are afraid they’ll be caught.
Srsly, I don’t mind because I know I won’t be caught. I don’t do idiotic crap and I just be a good fella, respect everyone, etc. So it doesn’t affect me at all unless I feel discrimination is starting to be involved, etc.
As long as I remain good and don’t get smacked for it I’m all fine.
Posted at 10:48am on August 17th, 2011
You know, I’m sure that the rules were re-posted on the home page of the website for a reason… *ahem to those consistently breaking them on purpose*
All those annoyed with the rules, either not come back to the site at all or simply shush and comply with them. It is not hard to follow the few easy rules displayed here. Yet, of course, we are going to have those specific few that shall continue to preform in their shenanigans, thinking that it is hilarious to attempt to become banned or merely to pester others. Seriously, if you are going to try, don’t even bother wasting your time. It makes you seem childish and immature.
Other than all of that, people really should not have a problem with any rules, even if some seem over the top or ridiculous in some way. Without them, the website would be filled with those wanting to basically show off and break the rules saying, “lol he mad, *inserts more flame-esque text*.” Rules are here to make the community more enjoyable for others while keeping out those attempting to ruin it. Accept them for they are here to stay.
Posted at 1:52pm on August 17th, 2011
rules are ment to be broken >:D
Posted at 4:16pm on August 18th, 2011
Realistically, every single one of those rules could be summed up as “Don’t be a jackass” but at least when they are spelled out as clearly as we can, there’s less room for “But it’s only your opinion that I’m a jackass” going on.
Posted at 10:21pm on August 18th, 2011
w/e
Posted at 11:11pm on August 20th, 2011
Who’s the jackass?
Posted at 2:08pm on August 21st, 2011
Ok so basically you took the already vague and arbitrarily enforced rules and made them more broad GREAT job guys ! !
Posted at 2:11pm on August 21st, 2011
And w tf is this fn boski guy anyways ya ok sure… good job y’all
Posted at 4:30pm on August 21st, 2011
I think the double setup rule, although in one sense understandable, is kind of unreasonable, as there’s people here long before, like MrRubix Phenom (who, call me crazy, I still don’t believe as it’s like impossible to AAA literally every single song) who admitted to using double setup a few years ago. But anywho, we all know that songs like Death Piano and Crowdpleaser beg for double setup and, in all likelyhood, mostly everyone who FC’d those songs used it. And I don’t get why it’s bad anyways; it’s the keyboard equivalent of “alt-strumming;” the coordination and timing is still there, and a different skill is implemented, and everyone can do it (unless you have some weird mutant keyboard), so I honestly don’t see what’s wrong or unfair about it.
Also, what qualifies as “arguing?” Like, if the game starts seeming buggy on certain OS’ or with newer versions of Flash Player, but it works fine with what all of the staff are using, am I arguing by not saying “Oh yeah, you’re right. I just suck at this game. That’s why I get good/misses whenever double-steps come up.” Also, a permaban for child pornography seems a bit light of a punishment.
Posted at 7:41pm on August 21st, 2011
@Xtreme2252 yea i agree with the last thing u said i would think permaban and possible legal action (such as appearing in court or something like that) would be more appropriate for that offence
Posted at 8:35pm on August 22nd, 2011
Lets see how many people actually follow these new rules.
Posted at 6:04pm on August 28th, 2011
lol. thats all that really needs to be said. a ot of people seem to be concerned about these rules (considering it took almost a half hour to reach the bottom of the page). i for one, think that nothing has changed. i’ve been playing for FFr for quite a while, and i dont really see any huge changes, just be respectful to those you interact with and you’ll be fine. i dont think anybody could really break a major rule unless they actually try to, then their just looking for trouble, but overall.. it’s just not really worth you’re time to be concerned with all this nonsence. just play the game like you use to, and dont be annoying when you try to make a point…
one ore thing, about the sharing account thing. i for one play on computers all over the place because ffr is a great time filler for me. so would it strike you guys as a (multiable player) on one account if you track a log-in on several different URL’s? or does it not matter? because i like playing at home, at my friends houses, the libaray, and school and ect. so, if i could get a solid answer on that, that’d be really nice c: thank you,
~(Rushdog7)~