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  • lord_carbo
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2004
    • 6222

    #16
    Re: I Surrender //

    OK, here's some constructive feedback: If you want your poem to be better, don't rant about how the world is so bad or something. Err, why is the world so bad? Your poem is a vague succession of quasi-related ideas. Booooring. Give it a theme. Emo **** sucks. Anything works. Like, talk about how people are getting killed in some miscellaneous African genocide. Or talk about how your ex-boyfriend is fat and smells funny. Really, I'm not kidding. My suggestions are actually terrible poem ideas, but they're still better than a succession of ideas about how much life sucks. There's really nothing worse you can write about, I swear. It's such a boring, uninspiring subject.

    If you want your poem to be better, avoid thesauri (and rhyming dictionaries). A person with the ability to capture the subtleties and niches of words doesn't usually need a thesaurus. A thesaurus tends to hurt the novice writer more than it helps him because it makes it tempting to use words whose subtleties he hasn't yet grasped. The thesaurus is a useful tool for good writers, and people who aren't necessarily good writers but know how to identify good writing. I repeat, it's not a reliable tool for novices.

    If you want your poem to be better, make it flow. Give it rhythm. Not a requirement, but it's nice. Rhythm is a great tool for people who aren't amazing poets. I mean, you think Ezra Pound used rhythm? Subtly and at times, but not as a rule. But he was an awesome poet, so he could do **** like that. Rhythm is also a great tool for amazing poets, so it's not like you're being lowly by using rhythm, it's just ridiculously easier to make a good poem with some rhythm. I mean, Shakespeare used iambic pentameter; and the greatest poem ever written, The Raven, is good mainly because of its rhythmic structure.
    Last edited by lord_carbo; 05-10-2009, 08:31 PM.
    last.fm

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    • The_Q
      FFR Player
      • May 2004
      • 4391

      #17
      Re: I Surrender //

      You wanna write about how the world sucks? Don't. Go ****ing do something about it. Awareness is nothing.

      And TGB ain't ****.

      Q

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      • lord_carbo
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2004
        • 6222

        #18
        Re: I Surrender //

        Originally posted by The_Q
        You wanna write about how the world sucks? Don't. Go ****ing do something about it. Awareness is nothing.

        And TGB ain't ****.

        Q
        it's just a poem man

        But yeah, TGB ain't ****.
        last.fm

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        • Erothyme
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2008
          • 2033

          #19
          Re: I Surrender //

          Some good criticism has been made here, particularly from Carbo.

          As for Mead and Q, this is way too easy of a target, guys. Seriously. :V


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          • Grandiagod
            FFR Player
            • Jul 2004
            • 6122

            #20
            Re: I Surrender //

            // not a good idea ever
            He who angers you conquers you. ~Elizabeth Kenny

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            • Tokzic
              FFR Player
              • May 2005
              • 6878

              #21
              Re: I Surrender //

              Originally posted by Grandiagod
              // not a good idea ever
              it is after http:

              Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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              • tofurox
                Them arrows.
                • May 2006
                • 2263

                #22
                Re: I Surrender //

                Read the first word....

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                • Devour
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 253

                  #23
                  Re: I Surrender //

                  Originally posted by lord_carbo
                  OK, here's some constructive feedback: If you want your poem to be better, don't rant about how the world is so bad or something. Err, why is the world so bad? Your poem is a vague succession of quasi-related ideas. Booooring. Give it a theme. Emo **** sucks. Anything works. Like, talk about how people are getting killed in some miscellaneous African genocide. Or talk about how your ex-boyfriend is fat and smells funny. Really, I'm not kidding. My suggestions are actually terrible poem ideas, but they're still better than a succession of ideas about how much life sucks. There's really nothing worse you can write about, I swear. It's such a boring, uninspiring subject.

                  If you want your poem to be better, avoid thesauri (and rhyming dictionaries). A person with the ability to capture the subtleties and niches of words doesn't usually need a thesaurus. A thesaurus tends to hurt the novice writer more than it helps him because it makes it tempting to use words whose subtleties he hasn't yet grasped. The thesaurus is a useful tool for good writers, and people who aren't necessarily good writers but know how to identify good writing. I repeat, it's not a reliable tool for novices.

                  If you want your poem to be better, make it flow. Give it rhythm. Not a requirement, but it's nice. Rhythm is a great tool for people who aren't amazing poets. I mean, you think Ezra Pound used rhythm? Subtly and at times, but not as a rule. But he was an awesome poet, so he could do **** like that. Rhythm is also a great tool for amazing poets, so it's not like you're being lowly by using rhythm, it's just ridiculously easier to make a good poem with some rhythm. I mean, Shakespeare used iambic pentameter; and the greatest poem ever written, The Raven, is good mainly because of its rhythmic structure.
                  Thanks a lot for this; I'll keep that in mind in future poetry. and I agree with you on the thesaurus comment, but I didn't use one. Honestly, this poem isn't one of my best, but I'm still very amateur and I don't plan to make anything of my poetry haha.

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