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  • Squeek
    let it snow~
    • Jan 2004
    • 14444

    #406
    Re: Heroes

    Obviously, I assumed that too. How hard would it have been to just add these lines:

    Ando: Why aren't you teleporting out?
    Hiro: It's still not working for some reason!

    Three seconds, done.

    The Haitian eventually shows up, but who knows? He could've been out for hours. The people in Level 5 are freely using their abilities all the time, and I assume Level 5 is below Level 2. Don't know how the radius of The Haitian's ability works but I think he can manage that kind of range.

    Also, if The Haitian was so nearby that he's blocking Hiro from leaving, you would think he'd hear the banging sooner.

    The definition Tsugo and I have makes a lot more sense. Kairouseki. In One Piece, it's a stone with the same properties as the ocean. The ocean nullifies Devil's Fruit powers. If you line a steel cage with Kairouseki, anyone inside will be unable to use their abilities.

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    • jump_the_bullet
      Oh you fancy, huh?
      • Jan 2008
      • 912

      #407
      Re: Heroes

      yeah they couldve done that. i guess its just implied.

      and i wondering about the radius of his abilities also. since when hiro was in the theater and couldnt use his powers the haitian walked out of another room quite far away. but in the future he simply leaves the room and peter can teleport out of there. unless he can now control how far or when his power blocking powers work.

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      • MrRubix
        FFR Player
        • May 2026
        • 8340

        #408
        Re: Heroes

        Originally posted by Squeek
        Uh, no it isn't. That's almost the entire fun of Heroes. There's so much to think about after the episode is over. It keeps the viewers locked in to the show.

        As someone said before, all of those plot holes I pointed out may not actually be plot holes at all. Who knows if the writers intended them? That would only make the show that more interesting.



        Boring. Speculating is where it's at.

        @Jump: Hi, my name is Hiro Nakamura. I make no reference to not being able to use my abilities to get out of this cell, so I make the viewers assume I have forgotten how to do it again. Instead, to plan my escape, I will make a ton of noise and yell a lot so as to fool the guards into thinking I am sitting quietly.
        I can guarantee you that the writers did not leave in those plot holes intentionally, lol. It's just sloppy writing. Doesn't mean it isn't still entertaining. I agree that being able to speculate on things after an episode ends is a lot of fun -- I never implied otherwise. By "face value" I mean don't worry about the plot holes. Just enjoy the story for what's given to you. If you spend all your time picking apart random inconsistent details and plot holes, you're going to be living the life of Sisyphus here.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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        • Squeek
          let it snow~
          • Jan 2004
          • 14444

          #409
          Re: Heroes

          It's hard to ignore the plotholes when they're so numerous and blatant. With a show like this where the concept is "anything's possible", you have to really wonder if there really is an explanation lurking behind the corner.

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          • tsugomaru
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2004
            • 3962

            #410
            Re: Heroes

            If you need more proof of that, future Claire makes a reference to something when she says that Peter can't escape because of her "friends". However, I think it was just the rope because Peter was completely unable to use his powers until his brother took off the ropes. Although Peter has quite a track record for doing stupid things, I don't think he was stupid enough not to try to get away from the pain and torture future Claire was giving him.

            MrRubix, trying to guess what will happen next and solving the mysteries is exactly what you are suppose to be doing. When you watch your typical show, you just sit there and watch it without even thinking about what could happen next. Show designers and writers (as well as all forms of media) dream to accomplish what Heroes has done, making the entire viewing experience interactive. It isn't interactive in the sense where we choose what's happening next, but most of us try to figure out explanations to the mysteries. We try to understand what's going on very much the same way Sylar tries to understand everything and we are only frustrated when we don't get what's going on.

            And all the problems in the show right now have been most likely caused by Hiro because he was being stupid. Hey look, I'm bored! Despite what my father told me, I'm going to open the safe to see what could potentially destroy the world.

            ~Tsugomaru
            Originally posted by Hiluluk
            WHEN do you think people die...?
            When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
            When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
            When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
            IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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            • MrRubix
              FFR Player
              • May 2026
              • 8340

              #411
              Re: Heroes

              lol, you guys are both misunderstanding me. Too lazy to elaborate.

              Heroes is a cool show.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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              • tsugomaru
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2004
                • 3962

                #412
                Re: Heroes

                I know Heroes is a good show and I know you know it too.

                However, you mentioned that all we could do with Heroes is just sit back and watch.

                And under no circumstance can I let someone who disagrees with me on the Internet walk away free.

                ~Tsugomaru
                Originally posted by Hiluluk
                WHEN do you think people die...?
                When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                • MrRubix
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2026
                  • 8340

                  #413
                  Re: Heroes

                  I'm not saying sit back and mindlessly take it in -- by all means, poke/prod/speculate/whatever. That's the fun part.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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                  • tsugomaru
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 3962

                    #414
                    Re: Heroes

                    Originally posted by MrRubix
                    Thus, all you can really do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show for its face value
                    oh

                    ~Tsugomaru
                    Originally posted by Hiluluk
                    WHEN do you think people die...?
                    When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                    When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                    When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                    IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                    • pokelda
                      ⁽ ´ཀ`⁾
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 3876

                      #415
                      Re: Heroes

                      OH MY GOD THEY KILLED THE SHOTA ;~; j

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                      • Tired_Old_Man
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 259

                        #416
                        Re: Heroes

                        omg heroes is like crack rocks
                        "man is a pupil, pain is his teacher" - Alfred de Musset

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                        • tsugomaru
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 3962

                          #417
                          Re: Heroes

                          It's speculation time. What is Mr. Perelli's power?

                          My idea is that he has the ability to control people with powers. It would explain why he's trying to build an army of people with powers. If everyone in the world had powers, he'd pretty much have control of the world.

                          ~Tsugomaru
                          Originally posted by Hiluluk
                          WHEN do you think people die...?
                          When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                          When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                          When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                          IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                          • Relambrien
                            FFR Player
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1644

                            #418
                            Re: Heroes

                            That can't be right, because Mr. Puppet Master can already do better than that--he can control anyone (you can see this from the previews for the next episode).

                            My guess would be that it's something cliché and horribly overpowered but due to Mr. Petrelli's physical condition, he's become a lot weaker.

                            Maybe the ability to kill people by looking at them. Petrelli's a basilisk! (only not really, you get the idea)

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                            • tsugomaru
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 3962

                              #419
                              Re: Heroes

                              But can Mr. Puppet control the ability user's power?

                              ~Tsugomaru
                              Originally posted by Hiluluk
                              WHEN do you think people die...?
                              When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                              When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                              When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                              IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                              • Squeek
                                let it snow~
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 14444

                                #420
                                Re: Heroes

                                Look, we discussed this on AIM. He doesn't control people with abilities. You're thinking way too literally about it.

                                I told you the facts. First, he looks to be in a pretty vegetative state. Second, he has so far only communicated to people with mental abilities. Third, he looks to have a great influence over these people.

                                Here's what I think. Mr. Petrelli has something similar to the Parkmans' abilities, but his is far more evolved. It seems like he can put more than a thought into your head.

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