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  • Relambrien
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2006
    • 1644

    #391
    Re: Heroes

    I'm bored so I feel like answering questions.


    Scene 1: Why is peter running away from claire? Why not fly?
    Peter's a dumbass.

    Scene 1: Why is Claire putting a gun to Peter? She knows he won't die from it, and she knows he can stop it with telekinesis or time-stop.
    Claire's a dumbass.

    Scene 2: Why doesn't Peter disguise himself if he's going to shoot someone in a room full of TV cameras and hundreds of onlookers? He has the ability to make himself look like anyone else. Or, he could just be invisible.
    Perhaps it's implied that he's invisible, much like in the phone booth scene in the second episode. Unless that's what you were suggesting by the last sentence.

    Scene 2: How did nobody else see him?
    See above.

    Scene 2: Why did he try to kill Nathan as opposed to just temporarily putting him down?
    Peter's a dumbass.

    Scene 2: Why didn't he take the gun with him?
    See above.

    Scene 2: DNA on the clothes? Hair?
    People are dumbasses.

    Scene 3: Why does Nathan not recover immediately? Why does he die first?
    I think this has been answered pretty well already.

    Scene 4: How does Hiro fast-forward to exactly the right moment without passing over it before?
    Special Time-Bender Super Luck®

    Scene 5: When did Claire learn about Hiro? I don't think she ever knew him by name.
    Special Invincible Girl Super Knowledge®

    Scene 5: Sylar has super-hearing. You would think he would hear Claire picking up something heavy.
    I thought he said he lost almost all his powers, excepting TK and his own innate understanding of things.

    Scene 5: Why does Sylar beat around the bush so much in subduing Claire? He's never one to enjoy the hunt--just the spoils.
    Slowly easing himself back into the lifestyle? Or he's a dumbass.

    Scene 5: Any reason you can't just jump out a window Claire? You've done it before to escape from someone far less dangerous.
    TK MAKES WINDOWS SUPAAA STRONG.

    Scene 5: Why is Sylar unable to break through a small wooden blind door? A child could break through that without super powers.
    Maybe it was a Mohinder-brand door?

    Scene 6: Why is Molly written out with a lame excuse?
    She was imbalanced.

    Scene 7: "There's nothing left for me to do here" what? There's plenty left for Mohinder to do, especially in New York, where people with abilities seem to grow on trees.
    Mohinder's a dumbass.

    Scene 7: How could a geneticist not understand something so obvious about abilities from the beginning? Everybody knows adrenaline does these things.
    See above.

    Scene 8: Why is Hiro so dumb? Respect your damn father.
    BOKU NO DESTINYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    Scene 8: Why is Kaito so dumb? If you know Hiro is going to be protecting something important, don't leave it somewhere obvious or make it so damn easy to open.
    HIRO NO DESTINYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    Scene 8: Why is Kaito retarded? He left a giant button sitting right on his desk. Anyone could get into that safe. Even if the biometric combo kept, a hero with phasing or a similar power would be able to get it.
    Kaito's a dumbass.

    Scene 8: Why is Kaito super incredibly idiotic? If you made a second tape acknowledging that Hiro broke his will, why would you let him get at the thing regardless?
    Kaito's a dumbass with foresight.

    Scene 8: Kaito come on seriously. You're dead. You're the only person who understands your words. Why would you speak in a riddle to the only person you're passing the information along to?
    HIRO NO DESTINYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

    Scene 8: How did speedy-cat know to come in right then? She couldn't have been sitting outside because she clearly disrupts everything she passes by.
    Apparently the comic book thing is a good explanation.

    Scene 9: I DON'T WANT TO TELL ANYONE ABOUT THE FUTURE.

    hi matt i came from the future

    People are dumbasses.

    Scene 9: Why does Peter assume nobody is outside this door as he switches from future Peter to present Peter in the middle of a police station?
    Peter's a dumbass/badass. He doesn't care.

    Scene 10: Once again Peter decides not to be invisible when thinking about shooting someone.
    Can't remember the scene. Maybe it's implied invisibility again.

    Scene 11: Mohinder continues to neglect doing real work.
    Mohinder's a power hungry dumbass. And horny.

    Scene 12: Sylar still can't open flimsy wooden doors held together by five seconds of improvised chaining.
    Mohinder-brand.

    Scene 13: Sylar implies that eating brains is disgusting. However, he has been seen with a bloody mouth before, and all of his previous victims had their brains removed. I understand that his ability is "a unique understanding of how things work", which explains why he doesn't actually have to eat her brain to consume her power, but it doesn't explain his past actions.
    FALSE EVIDENCE TO CONFUSE COPS.

    Scene 13: "You can never die." Both Claire and Peter have died before. If you simply keep the object that kills them in them, they won't revive.
    I don't think he meant it as in "It's impossible for you to die," I think he meant "You need to avoid dying at all costs."

    Scene 14: Another Mohinder mishap. There's still an illness that afflics only those with abilities, so that creation of his is just asking to become a worldwide pandemic. He found a "cure" but it's still a blood transfusion upon discovery of problems. You can't do that when the problems are widespread.
    Mohinder's a dumbass.

    Scene 15: In religion, the idea isn't to hide prophets. The idea is to tell the world. The only reason books about Jesus exist is because people spread the word abot Jesus. So saying angels can't be angels if everyone knows about them doesn't make sense in the religious context he implies.
    RELIGIOOOOOOON.

    Scene 18: Hiro makes a mistake and chooses not to rectify it by going to the past. Instead, he chooses to go to an unpredictable future where he can die and be unable to return to the present.
    BOKU NO DES--I mean, Hiro's a dumbass. He thought due to his past experiences that trying to fix things by going into the past was the wrong way to go about it, and that he should be working to solve the problems in the present.

    Scene 18: Since when is Hiro able to pinpoint a specific moment in the future he doesn't even know about?
    Maybe his method of time travel allows him to search for events in addition to pure dates. Google for the modern Bill and Ted!

    Scene 18: It's just a little too convenient that he can dip into the future to find out what he does, since his future self is based on his past self's actions, so his future self is only acting on the past self's sight of him in the future. In short, he's imagining the result.
    TIME LOOP.

    Scene 19: Why go all the way to a pier to pitch the syringe and then change your mind?
    More dumbassery.

    Scene 20: If Angela has precognitive dreams, she would've known to stop Peter in Season 1.
    See above.

    Scene 21: Why does Pyro still think he can get out after all the time he's been in there?
    See above.

    Scene 23: We don't know how long Matt is in the middle of Africa, but most experts say you would be dead from heat exhaustion without water in a matter of hours. Of course, that's assuming something else doesn't kill you first.
    I figured it was maybe an hour or so. 45 minutes to be woefully exhausted, a few minutes of sleep, then a Sprint-using turtle and Isaac 2.0.

    Scene 25: Mohinder's manifestation makes no sense. He can bend guns, he can throw people, he suddenly learns martial arts? And in the next episode, we find out he's spider-man? It's just a little vague. Most people's abilities make sense out of the box.
    He's The Fly.

    EDIT: Goddamn registered trademark symbols

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    • HansSky
      FFR Player
      • Oct 2003
      • 1925

      #392
      Re: Heroes

      IF YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE COMING I WOULD HAVE MADE EXTRA

      I love Sylar.
      hi

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      • funmonkey54
        The Chill Keeper
        • Oct 2007
        • 4127

        #393
        Re: Heroes

        Originally posted by HansSky
        IF YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE COMING I WOULD HAVE MADE EXTRA

        I love Sylar.
        LOL! Me too!
        BTW, he just said this like 2 minutes ago. =0

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        • flipsta_lombax
          Lombax Connoisseur
          • May 2006
          • 2556

          #394
          Re: Heroes

          How about someone edit that title and include spoiler alert on it? It'll save us the trouble really...

          But I really didn't like the show today, it was pretty dull. I'll wait for next week and see if it is better.
          Best FGO: Time To Eye{3-0-0-0}

          Best SCORE: Husigi Usagi Milk Tei {16-1-2-8}

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          • Relambrien
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2006
            • 1644

            #395
            Re: Heroes

            In terms of actually making sense and developing a coherent story, this episode beat out everything since season 1.

            In terms of pure ridiculous entertainment, it was above average.

            Originally posted by Spoilers

            Coherent story bits:
            Yes. Nikki's dead.
            People keep going back in time to fix the world, but their screwing with time makes it worse, and we're finally seeing how.
            Marlo actually showed some intelligence in finding out who Peter really was.
            Claire's mom showed some tough parenting, superhero style.
            Noah did some screwing with Sylar's mind to serve his own needs.
            THE HAITIAN RETURNS

            Ridiculous entertainment bits:
            Every Hiro/Ando scene. Made better by the music.
            "If I knew you were coming I would've made more!"
            "PIKACHU?!" (I know this ties in with Hiro/Ando, but whatever)
            Agent Sylar.
            Ando pulling some wrestling stuff on the Haitian.
            Parkman and the MIX TAPE FROM THE FUTURE.
            All in all a good episode.

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            • Izzy
              Snek
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 9195

              #396
              Re: Heroes

              Again, my roomates girlfriend came over to our dorm and demanded to watch it on my HD tv. Seemed corny as fuk.

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              • Squeek
                let it snow~
                • Jan 2004
                • 14444

                #397
                Re: Heroes

                After re-watching seasons one and two, I came to the conclusion that the writers could not make a story that didn't originate from the future.

                Looks like I was right.

                Seriously, they need to lose this crutch. It's cool in theory, but it's getting old in practice.

                I was hoping episode 3 would be less convoluted from the first two. It was, but that's little hope for the future of this season, really. We got some of the burning questions answered, but more dumbassery and plot holes came along with it, along with hundreds of other questions.

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                • tsugomaru
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 3962

                  #398
                  Re: Heroes

                  A big theme of the show is the whole "questions" and the ways of how we find the answers to them. I can believe that there are a whole bunch of questions out there that we ask that should have a straight forward answer, but the answer is usually skewed or obscure. I'd like to say that the rest of the season is going to end up sucking based on these first 3 episodes, but being Heroes, it is way too early to make a prediction like that.

                  In the previews at the end of episode 3, is that Claire flying? Did she find some way to pull a Sylar?
                  ~Tsugomaru
                  Originally posted by Hiluluk
                  WHEN do you think people die...?
                  When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                  When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                  When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                  IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                  • mead1
                    Cerebellumberjack
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 3960

                    #399
                    Re: Heroes

                    Am I the only one that thinks Sylar looks like John Travolta in Pulp Fiction when he's riding in the car with Noah?

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                    • Squeek
                      let it snow~
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14444

                      #400
                      Re: Heroes

                      We're finally back in stride.

                      Hello glory of Season 1.

                      Although Hiro is still a dumbass.

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                      • tsugomaru
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 3962

                        #401
                        Re: Heroes

                        Yah seriously. This episode made me say, "whoooo"!

                        ~Tsugomaru
                        Originally posted by Hiluluk
                        WHEN do you think people die...?
                        When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                        When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                        When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                        IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                        • jump_the_bullet
                          Oh you fancy, huh?
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 912

                          #402
                          Re: Heroes

                          wait why is hiro a dumbass in that episode.
                          unless you count the alienating ando so bad that it will make him evil anyway.
                          other than that he wasnt that bad

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                          • MrRubix
                            FFR Player
                            • May 2026
                            • 8340

                            #403
                            Re: Heroes

                            Heroes is one of those shows where there are just so many twists and turns and random plot devices to the point where it's all just a big, disorganized mess. It's totally useless to really try to make sense of it.

                            Thus, all you can really do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show for its face value

                            And, given that a lot of people are doing this, the writers are reverting back to the time-tested successful formula: Make the season revolve around power-discovery. That *always* gets people into things. Notice why Season 2 blew (besides the writer's strike)... very little discovery to keep people wondering.
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

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                            • Squeek
                              let it snow~
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 14444

                              #404
                              Re: Heroes

                              Originally posted by MrRubix
                              Heroes is one of those shows where there are just so many twists and turns and random plot devices to the point where it's all just a big, disorganized mess. It's totally useless to really try to make sense of it.
                              Uh, no it isn't. That's almost the entire fun of Heroes. There's so much to think about after the episode is over. It keeps the viewers locked in to the show.

                              As someone said before, all of those plot holes I pointed out may not actually be plot holes at all. Who knows if the writers intended them? That would only make the show that more interesting.

                              Thus, all you can really do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show for its face value
                              Boring. Speculating is where it's at.

                              @Jump: Hi, my name is Hiro Nakamura. I make no reference to not being able to use my abilities to get out of this cell, so I make the viewers assume I have forgotten how to do it again. Instead, to plan my escape, I will make a ton of noise and yell a lot so as to fool the guards into thinking I am sitting quietly.

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                              • jump_the_bullet
                                Oh you fancy, huh?
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 912

                                #405
                                Re: Heroes

                                Originally posted by Squeek
                                @Jump: Hi, my name is Hiro Nakamura. I make no reference to not being able to use my abilities to get out of this cell, so I make the viewers assume I have forgotten how to do it again. Instead, to plan my escape, I will make a ton of noise and yell a lot so as to fool the guards into thinking I am sitting quietly.
                                lol ok i see your point. i was thinking that too. but i figured the haitian was hanging around somewhere close blocking his powers since hes the one who caught them and they know hiro would try to teleport out. Then surprise hes in the room. so i figured correctly as far as i know

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