Fractal Art

[who_cares973]

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damn sp1nzok those are badass



spenner and mhss yours are pretty bitchin too

[mhss1992]

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mhss1992's fractals suck, but Spenner's fractals are really good.

Edit: Didn't see sp1nzoK's fractals until just now. His are really good also, but I think Spenner is the best in this thread. :/

I said I was a beginner.
How the hell do you treat people like that? If you don't like them, you could at least try to explain the reason.

[Spenner]

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mhss1992's fractals suck

They're of a completely different style, so I wouldn't judge them on a comparison basis.

EDIT a few more fractals while I'm at it:

[Syhto]

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lmao that was messed up man. they arent amazing but he just started making them for christ's sake. you have to start somewhere.

[Commandersa1]

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I said I was a beginner.
How the hell do you treat people like that? If you don't like them, you could at least try to explain the reason.

Just because you are a beginner doesn't mean we cannot judge harsh. It would be an insult to Spenner if I said you were both Gods at making fractal art. He is of course better than you so I have to judge you both on the same scale.

Your fractals have a lot of white squares around the picture. It's not easy on the eyes. Spenner's fractals are smooth and keep a set of colors.

[Syhto]

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sp1ns are still better than spenner's. One word: contrast

[Scrab]

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Judge harsh, Judge constructively .

So here is my opinion.

I could see myself liking your work mhss1992, you just need to try to not make it too hectic, that's how it looked in my opinion. Also it looked a bit pixelated, I'm not sure why that is; I don't use Fractals.

Keep it up .

[sp1nzoK]

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I want to add weight to the word subjective, everyone has a taste of their own, Ultra Fractal is like blending layers and working on layers, Apophysis is working on transforms and variables.

I don't personally rank Spenner's too high because they look like they were taken from random batch, mutated and rendered (nearly all of them), also the gamma setting is too high for the brightness (imo) and the quality settings are something that allows fast render in sacrifice of quality, both of which add the haze / pixel stuff. Don't take this too harshly as I said it's subjective.

EDIT: Since I still have these, I'll post them.

All of these are with zero editor use.

from 2005
Vertigon Flame


Angel Flame


Wave Flame


Glacial Flame


Glacial Dragoon


from 2006
Feather Apocalypse


from 2009
These were just quick ones I did now.

Emblem A


Emblem B

[makdaddy]

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feather apocalypse ftw

[sp1nzoK]

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That's exactly what I mean with subjective, as the person who made that image I can say that the program basically made it for me since I had no clue how to use editor at that point, yet it looks good, but for me it has very little value in that respect. The ones I have on page one have value for me since I actually made them from scratch, even if they are still easy to make. For someone who never used Apophysis (or Ultra Fractal) the images are just images that either look or don't look good.

[Syhto]

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Of course it's subjective, as art always is.

[mhss1992]

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Just because you are a beginner doesn't mean we cannot judge harsh. It would be an insult to Spenner if I said you were both Gods at making fractal art. He is of course better than you so I have to judge you both on the same scale.

Your fractals have a lot of white squares around the picture. It's not easy on the eyes. Spenner's fractals are smooth and keep a set of colors.

Sure, judge harsh, but make sure you know what you're talking about. White squares are Ultra Fractal's fault, not mine. And, obviously, pixelation is also not my fault. I could try changing the color gradient to reduce the white but, usually, it looks really strange without any white. Ultra fractal's default formulas are like that, perhaps, you should judge them, too.

And, like they said, my style is different. He likes flame fractals, they are probably easier to do with Apophysis, but not that easy with Ultra Fractal.

[Spenner]

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I've been having too much fun with random batches/basic symmetrical batches and just mutating them, I actually haven't made myself anything from scratch yet (I'm still looking at placement points for stuff in the editor and seeing what makes a good fractal).

So yeah, I don't deserve much credit for mine, though they do look particularly decent to the someone with no experience with fractals of any sort.

I think I'll try some from-scratch stuff right now, thanks for the reminder.

[mhss1992]

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I've been having too much fun with random batches/basic symmetrical batches and just mutating them, I actually haven't made myself anything from scratch yet (I'm still looking at placement points for stuff in the editor and seeing what makes a good fractal).

So yeah, I don't deserve much credit for mine, though they do look particularly decent to the someone with no experience with fractals of any sort.

I think I'll try some from-scratch stuff right now, thanks for the reminder.

Yeah, I also tried making some original formulas and coloring algorithms. But they are still too similar to the default formulas...

EDIT: Since I still have these, I'll post them.

All of these are with zero editor use.

Emblem A is the coolest, in my opinion.

[sp1nzoK]

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@ Spenner I'd say just experiment yourself, the random batches are all over the editor and with different variations they either work or don't together (you can get black image with certain combinations no matter where you move them, or images showing very little) so the triangle "spots" won't help you in the long run, but it's that more rewarding when you get the hang of editor if you like doing fractals for the sake of doing them

@ mhss1992, I don't think you need to go too in-depth with UF yet since you're just starting, especially if the program provides similar results more readily, it does help if you learn more about it but I wouldn't say it's key issue if trying to make good pictures. What I find annoying in UF, is that pictures get easily too bloated with stuff, I'm beginner with the program aswell so that's one issue.

The white boxes / bad looking pixels and all is just composition issue, you can't always make things work your way with just the fractal program as fractals can be pretty chaotic, even more so when mixing different variations.

general tip:
Finding detailed tutorials and following them step by step gives you a lot of insight, no matter the program, imo it's the best thing to do atleast with Apo when starting out with editor/coloring/adjust options/render quality - among other things.