Twitch blocking copyrighted audio

[stargroup100]

Re: Twitch blocking copyrighted audio

Fun fact: when NASA was talking with astronauts on the moon, their delay was ~1.3 seconds each way. So they literally had an easier time talking with moon-walking spacemen than streamers do with their chat.

k that's not really a fair comparison. the astronauts have access to much better technology and are using it for more serious purposes

[Wafles]

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Not to mention you're comparing direct radio signals (speed of light and whatnot) to digital wire transmission signals, its an unfair comparison based on that alone. Much better technology? Lol no.

[MinaciousGrace]

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not to mention the average astronaut is worse at league of legends than the average league of legends player

think about that

[AutotelicBrown]

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Given the astronauts upbringing, I actually doubt that statement is true.

Not to mention you're comparing direct radio signals (speed of light and whatnot) to digital wire transmission signals, its an unfair comparison based on that alone. Much better technology? Lol no.

Fiber is literally speed of light and stuff like ethernet uses electric signals that is just 'a bit' slower. Anyway, 1s delay is actually a hell lot, if I don't get a really bad route my latency with US servers is between 100~200ms. Even against Asia servers is around 400ms.

[Dynam0]

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not to mention the average astronaut is worse at league of legends than the average league of legends player

think about that

if all astronauts play league of legends and not all league of legends players are good, then which of the following is true:

a) not all astronauts are good at league of legends
b) not all league of legends players are astronauts
c) not astronauts of league are good at all legends

[lurker]

Re: Twitch blocking copyrighted audio

Fiber is literally speed of light and stuff like ethernet uses electric signals that is just 'a bit' slower. Anyway, 1s delay is actually a hell lot, if I don't get a really bad route my latency with US servers is between 100~200ms. Even against Asia servers is around 400ms.

but you're comparing streaming to much simpler forms of communication (probably gaming but at worst you could just be talking about pinging a server which requires practically no data) which is just as unfair an assumption to make

a second or two is completely fine if we're just talking about casual interaction with a streamer, while 30 seconds is obviously harmful to any form of interaction whatsoever (although TPP became more interesting and strategic because of it)

[AutotelicBrown]

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Latency is pretty much constant and based on actual distance of your connection route. Streaming is only heavy on bandwidth but that's irrelevant to effective latency.

The only other thing that would make a difference is if twitch does some significant processing (like applying the copyright thing on livestreams) before setting up the stream for viewers, but there's nothing that really justifies it.

There are many reasons a minimal 1~2s delay would be desirable for the streaming service, I'm just pointing out that it's not a question of connection infra-structure to build the streaming pipeline.

[qqwref]

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Latency is pretty much constant and based on actual distance of your connection route. Streaming is only heavy on bandwidth but that's irrelevant to effective latency.

The only other thing that would make a difference is if twitch does some significant processing (like applying the copyright thing on livestreams) before setting up the stream for viewers, but there's nothing that really justifies it.

Yeah, that's how it should be, and twitch used to do it that way. I think at some point they changed to a different streaming format, which puts a chunk of frames into one block and sends out those blocks instead of sending the stream out continuously. Of course the size of the chunk determines the absolute minimum latency, because twitch's servers have to wait for the whole thing to be done before they can send it over.

Considering that it was literally only a couple of days between having streams with great interaction and having streams with 30+ second delay, it's definitely the change of format, and not some kind of data/speed issues they're having.