Steer clear of Skype.

[Afrobean]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

I don't really care if Skype is spying on me, especially since governmental workers might be spying on everyone in the United States anyway.

Might be? They 100% for sure ARE. The NSA is passively spying on EVERYONE. They don't have the manpower or processing to manually crunch ALL the data of EVERYONE, so yeah, most of it slips through the cracks, but they totally have their fingers in everyone's shit and get into almost anything they want.

ps Why doesn't everyone use Google Hangouts? Doesn't everyone have a Google account anyway? Maybe everyone will use it once it gets pushed into place as Android's answer to iOS's iMessage?

[Izzy]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

Is there a different between microsoft spying on you and google spying on you?

[Izzy]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

uninstalled Skype and installed Trillian not because of this conspiracy theory shit but because I don't like Skype hogging my resources

wat

[Afrobean]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

Is there a different between microsoft spying on you and google spying on you?

I feel like I can trust Google to be less sinister. Of all huge corporations I know of, they're probably the least evil.

Probably.

[devonin]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

If you have a gmail account you're already giving them permission to access the text of every sent and received email, to mine data for targeted advertising. Why worry if they're also reading your chat logs for the same purpose?

[devonin]

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[MixMasterLar]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

Afrobean and Dev are hitting it on the head

Pseudo: I hate using the "You're probably a little too young to..." excuse, but by damn when you get older you are going to just get tired of people getting in your shit. It all sounds nifty to have the world custom fit for you but it isn't work the drawback of everything you have being known, sold, and used. I know you see concerns of what they *could* do as paranoia but frankly, alot of it has happened before with different set pieces (Germany's rights doing the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s are the most well known example I'll say. Go seek some of the interviews that the History channel did back in the late 1990s/early 2000s online and tell me shit doesn't start looking familiar at some point [/Goldwin's Rule]).

Frankly, I always assume something is looking in, so only info that I want public is on the computers I use anyway. I pay most everything with cash and I keep records in paper form. The most private thing they can get is my address if they did some serious investigating and cross-referenced everything I've posted on here, Facebook, and whatnot...but that isn't anything that an ISP check couldn't do sp it's w/e

[choof]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

all ur avatars are made in japan

moe does not exist in the 3 dimensional form

[devonin]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

Afrobean and Dev are hitting it on the head

Pseudo: I hate using the "You're probably a little too young to..." excuse, but by damn when you get older you are going to just get tired of people getting in your shit. It all sounds nifty to have the world custom fit for you but it isn't work the drawback of everything you have being known, sold, and used. I know you see concerns of what they *could* do as paranoia but frankly, alot of it has happened before with different set pieces (Germany's rights doing the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s are the most well known example I'll say. Go seek some of the interviews that the History channel did back in the late 1990s/early 2000s online and tell me shit doesn't start looking familiar at some point [/Goldwin's Rule]).

Frankly, I always assume something is looking in, so only info that I want public is on the computers I use anyway. I pay most everything with cash and I keep records in paper form. The most private thing they can get is my address if they did some serious investigating and cross-referenced everything I've posted on here, Facebook, and whatnot...but that isn't anything that an ISP check couldn't do sp it's w/e

It's funny that you'd draw literally the EXACTLY opposite set of conclusions from the same situation as I did, especially since you seem to be assuming that I'd obviously agree with you.

BECAUSE I know that pretty much anybody who wants to know things about me is going to (whether it be the government or corporations or whatever) I pretty don't care at all about giving out my personal info. I almost never pay cash for anything, I do virtually -everything- online. I bank online, I buy things online, I do most of my corresponding over email and IM programs, and I use the same username for virtually every thing I've ever done in the past 20 years of being present on the internet.

There are two kinds of intelligent reaction to the knowledge that elements in the world are gathering tracking and analysing miscellaneous information about everybody:

1/ Go on paranoid lockdown, and only pay for canned goods with the cash you keep stashed in your matress

2/ Accept that you are never going to have the time, resources and will to actually try and stop the information from being gathered, and not care.

The trick is to just not be a guy who does the kind of things that would get you into trouble if the government found out about them.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

2/ Accept that you are never going to have the time, resources and will to actually try and stop the information from being gathered, and not care.

I'll take it that you're telling me it's perfectly acceptable to accept defeat and not waste your time worrying about it. lol

I just don't see the point. It just makes somebody's job harder somewhere in the world. If someone can profit from just one link clicked, then that's probably something pretty cool for them. I don't see a lick of money, but I guess that's alright. As long as somebody else is happier because of it.

It may be youth speaking, but I seriously don't give a fuck if I'm being watched. TBH I've never felt like I've had a private life to begin with, so...it will either bite me in the ass later and I'll take the appropriate counter-measures, or it wont and I get to stay comfortable and not fall into anxiety over nothing.

[igotrhythm]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

Don't you need to have skype installed and running to use the skype plugin on Trillian? It really wouldn't make any difference at that point.

Nope, you just need to provide your login data to Trillian. I /have/ uninstalled Skype and Trillian talks just fine with my imported contacts.

[devonin]

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I'll take it that you're telling me it's perfectly acceptable to accept defeat and not waste your time worrying about it. lol

If you don't do anything illegal, and are even remotely careful to have different passwords for each of the 3 or 4 most vital things you have passwords for, I don't really see a purpose to worrying about whether programs you use are gathering info about you.

100% of them are, and you've agreed explicitly to 100% of them by clicking that "I agree" button at the bottom of all that text you didn't read.

If you don't accept a ToS or a EULA, you can't use the thing you want to use. So I say "Am I more paranoid about what they might do with information they could gather from this program than I am interested in using this program?" and the answer is always no.

[Izzy]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

they are watching you masturbate through your webcam.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Re: Steer clear of Skype.

If you don't do anything illegal, and are even remotely careful to have different passwords for each of the 3 or 4 most vital things you have passwords for, I don't really see a purpose to worrying about whether programs you use are gathering info about you.

100% of them are, and you've agreed explicitly to 100% of them by clicking that "I agree" button at the bottom of all that text you didn't read.

If you don't accept a ToS or a EULA, you can't use the thing you want to use. So I say "Am I more paranoid about what they might do with information they could gather from this program than I am interested in using this program?" and the answer is always no.

ah I see. Yeah I always think about reading the EULA but I never really do because I just deal with it on my own if something dumb happens (like that Smart TV vid) eg. stop using the product, or just say it's bullshit but adjust.

they are watching you masturbate through your webcam.

At least someone besides me enjoys it. lolol

[devonin]

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they are watching you masturbate through your webcam.

So they're all overcome with lust and jealousy? Man, I'm like saving the world here!