Is this Just Self-Defence?

[Izzy]

Re: Is this Just Self-Defence?

I don't think the guy ever felt like he was in danger, he just seems pissed off at the women and is taking advantage of the situation.

It was self defense up until the first strike and she was on the ground defending herself.

[benguino]

Re: Is this Just Self-Defence?

From the video it doesn't seem like the man orders the women to stay on the ground. If I was being brutally attacked like that, I would try to run away. I wouldn't want to be beaten to death. I think every person has the right to get off the ground. Now if the man had told the women, "stay on the ground or else I'll beat the **** out of you!" then of course I would stay on the ground seeing that getting up would result in me being beaten some more. However, when the women first got up for the first time, they had no idea or warning that doing so would result in their physical harm.

If you want someone to do something (in this case, stay on the ground) you have to tell that person, you can't just assume that the other person knows what you want from them.

[UserNameGoesHere]

Re: Is this Just Self-Defence?

In hindsight he probably should have yelled at them to stay on the ground, but I don't know if the result would have been any different.

Also this appears to really boil down to a personal judgment call. It depends whether you think this amount of force was justified or excessive, in this particular case, as to which side of the fence you'll be.