drac, if people used weed carefully, there would be no deaths from it. your completely wrong about the gun thing. it takes a person to want to kill someone with a gun to do it. when ur smoking weed, you dont get in a car and drive and say "hm, i wanna kill myself!" then get into a car accident. weed is fine if you smoke while just chillin somewhere like on the beach or some shit like that, and its not exceptable to drive when ur high. but i think it would be ok to have marijuana legal if it was only sold in moderation, i duno how they would do it but whatever i think it should be legal,.
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Same with nuclear weapons, to be fair.Comment
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Jewpin really raises a good point. I think that the only reason why Tobacco is legal in itself is that we were using it for hundreds of years before we figured out that it kills you. And by this time the tobacco industry is too powerful to be touched, so we have to rely on people to stop them. As for Alcohol...well, people will always abuse things. I mean hell, people take a simple thing like glue and abuse it, use it to get high. But alcohol isn't quite as bad. You don't get addicted to alcohol as fast as you do drugs or tobacco, and it won't necessarily kill you if you are. Now, neither will tobacco, but the risk is much greater.
The biggest reason I think we should stop the drug war is the fact that we're failing. We lose dozens of valuable officers fighting it, and we're losing. It's just like Prohibition all over again, except this time we're more stubborn and refuse to accept the fact that we cannot stop Americans from doing what we want to do. We in America tend to have a certain...ignorance, for rules. We fought the British when we didn't like their rule. We fought each other when we didn't like the current rules. We fought Vietnam when they threatened to change the rules that we like. We fought Saddam when he wouldn't conform to our rules. Pattern?
And yes, I realized I digressed up there...it was a good point, though.Comment
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yeah, as that article says Marijuana doesn't have a much bad influence on the human body
compared to other drugs, cigs, or alcohol.
and according to some reports Marijuana doesn't have both physical and psychic dependence.
It's conditionally legal in the Netherlands.
But some people think Marijuana would cause more crimes because of its pharmacologic actions
like what Drac wrote and it would do harm to the society, so it's illegal in most countries.Comment
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Emccky, you don't have to want to kill someone to kill them with a gun. If your little kid kills himself by accident because you made the bad judgement to leave your gun on the floor, it is the same as killing your kid with the car by accident because you made the bad judgement of driving while high. The only difference could be that Marijuana screws with your judgement and makes it easier to make bad judgements, guns don't. Which is more dangerous?Comment
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Drugs = bad
Drug war = worse
I know for a fact that a lot of people simply do it out of rebelliousness.Comment
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this kind of goes along the same lines as chardish was going...
A lot of people do it for the rebellious nature of it, much like Alcohol or smoking under age.
Alcohol: A lot of people like to party under age, and then they party like idiots when they turn 21. Eventually you realize, hey... well, the fun is gone out of this because its not illegal anymore, and it dies down. Same with under age smoking, but because smoking is much more addictive it sticks through life.
I think the same thing would happen if you legalize marijuana as does with alcohol, there would be this huge out burst for a while, but it would eventually die down because it became much more accessible and a lot less of a rebellious thing. Again, just my opinion.Comment
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That outburst would mess up quite a few things... and rather than 10 year olds smoking cigarettes, we'd have 10 yr olds smokin joints... both are addictive, and people will more than likely always use them. Like i said, legal in the privacy of ones home, maybe. But not in public.
And also... over time, a tolerance is built up to marijuana. Eventually, a person hits a point where its cheaper to go to other drugs, than to continue trying to use marijuana to continue getting high... and they do. This is why its called the gateway drug, and I'v watched dozens of people fall into the same exact trap. If we were going to legalize marijuana, the next thing would be lsd... then heroin... then cocain...... you get the point. You have to draw the line somehwere. Cigarettes arent making people any stupider than they already are. If you smoke, its just a nice warning to other people that you are a moron. Potheads on the otherhand, get into a lazy and useless state. It makes people stupider. Absolutely.
The penalty for this crap is still too little. Jail is too much, but the fine should be devastating. And tax should be about 500% the sale price. Literally. Use the money from the ignorant potheads, to pay for the poor kid's college, or something along those lines. Dont use the tax money for rehab... thats contradicting yourself.
Either way, marijuana helps NO ONE in the long run. And people rarely realize that till 10 years down the road.
Edit - As far as penalty, i feel that it should be legal to sell it... but illegal to smoke it. As in... DONT LET PEOPLE SEE. If you are caught smoking in public... you should get thrown in jail for the day. (not prison) and fined about 10 grand...Comment
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Your post made sense right up until there. That's the same reason I think the RIAA is stupid. They're trying to ban filesharing, yet they sell Mp3 players? Your comment ranks right up there in the stuipdity factor. What legislation would vote for a law like that?Edit - As far as penalty, i feel that it should be legal to sell it... but illegal to smoke it.Comment
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Anti, that wasn't a stupid comment. It would be an awesome trap for the government- legal to sell (taxes + record of buyers), illegal to use (prevents bad effects, easy to catch since you have names from buy). That would screw over so many people that the whole drug market would collapse.Comment
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"Either way, marijuana helps NO ONE in the long run"
Tell that to those dying from Cancer and Leukemia, and the only thing that is keeping them from spending their last few years in pain is Marijuana.
"Potheads on the otherhand, get into a lazy and useless state. It makes people stupider. Absolutely."
There is no proof that pot makes you dumber. Besides, most of the people who start smoking it are idiots to begin with, but not all of them. I know some very smart "potheads".Comment
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I watched so many friends in highschool get stupid off smoking pot. Thats why i said it, regardless of medical proof.
It made perfect sense... if you read the whole statement. NO SMOKING = NO SMOKING IN PUBLIC.
Cops cant come into your house for no reason and arrest you. So smoke there... not on the bench next to me in a park.Comment
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"I watched so many friends in highschool get stupid off smoking pot. Thats why i said it, regardless of medical proof."
So have I. But I know the reason they do it is to be "rebels". All they do on the weekends is Smoke and Drink. They used to be fun to hang out with, too. LAN parties, arguing over which video games kick more ass, but no, not anymore, they are too cool hanging out with the "emo" kids.
How do I know they do it just to be rebels? Well, my one friend, who got all of the others into smoking, well, they ditched him too.Comment
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about pot not killing people i have nearly died twice from it. now before you go making me out to be a stoner let me explain. i am highly allergic to THC so if somone starts smoking it within about 20 ft i can die. anyways. anyone who says that pot has no negative side effects is either ignorant or very hopefull. i think any pleasure inducing drug is bad simply because of the addiction it carries.Towles may be harmfull when swallowed in large quantitiesComment
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I am not saying Pot doesnt have negative side affects. I am just saying that when compared to Tobacco and Alcohol, it really isnt that bad.
People are also allergic to peanuts, but that doesnt mean they should make Peanut M&Ms illegal.
And once again, when I mean pot has never killed anyone I am making refference to there has never been a case like this:
Cop #1 "So young....what a waste."
Cop #2 "Looks like they overdosed on Marijuana."
Cop #1 "Always with the Marijuana. NO!!!!! WHY NOT TAKE ME INSTEAD!!! Ugh, I need to get my mind off of this. Let's hit the pub and drink ourselves blind"
Cop #2 "Sounds good to me. God, this job would be so difficult if it werent for Alcohol to drown my problems with and Cigarettes to calm my nerves."
Cop #1 "Why cant children just drink liquor and slowly destroy their underdeveloped livers with its sweet sweet toxins, and smoke their little young lungs full of the wonderful cancer inducing tar of tobacco?"
Cop #2 "Maybe it has to do with how much harder it is to obtain liquor and cigs while underaged. And how Drug dealers dont care to check for I.D. Or maybe, just maybe, they do it because it is illegal."
Cop #1 "When with they learn?!"Comment
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