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  • Reincarnate
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

    #76
    Re: A world without money.

    not when you're right

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    • devonin
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      • Apr 2004
      • 10120

      #77
      Re: A world without money.

      Nope, even then. Winning at the special olympics and whatnot.

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      • Reincarnate
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6332

        #78
        Re: A world without money.

        Again, not really

        The hilarious thing is that people with a lot of power in this country make really retarded mistakes like these in the favor of screwed incentives, lack of foresight, and moral hazard.

        It's always good to remind people of the basics.
        Last edited by Reincarnate; 01-5-2011, 08:09 AM.

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        • Arch0wl
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          • Dec 2002
          • 6344

          #79
          Re: A world without money.

          Labeling people 'retarded' can be a powerful device when done properly because it is a negative example. It does nothing to persuade the person you're debating with, this is true. But unless this is an issue on which many people will have already made up their minds (abortion, for example) it's likely that not everyone reading you has, in fact, made up their minds. They're looking for a "side" to join. And if they see someone being called retarded, they have to face the strong possibility that if they join that side they, too, will be called retarded.

          On the internet though, the dynamic is a bit different. Forums put most people on equal footing, so it usually doesn't work very well. It only works if the authority of the "retard" label is greater than any authority which might oppose it. So usually, you either need a chorus of people calling someone retarded or an extremely authoritative voice (a professor among students, for example) to deliver the "don't be like this retard" blow.

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          • foilman8805
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            • Sep 2006
            • 5704

            #80
            Re: A world without money.

            Thanks for breaking that down dude.

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            • Ickalanda
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2010
              • 113

              #81
              Re: A world without money.

              The biggest problem about not having money is that then there wouldn't be any way to label who has what and who is allowed to do what. If there was truly no money then people would just start hording everything to themselves to make their houses larger or have more valuables. Money solves this problem by giving everything a value and making you have to work in order to be able to receive a certain value of something. I find it hard to think of a world without money, the closest thing that there has been is in the old world of trading, but even then that is still the same concept, with nothing being free as you suggested in your first post.

              It would be impossible to have everything be free because then all of the worlds resources would be used up immediately and there would be no accountability for anything at all. People would begin fighting over who could have what, this is not a world of infinite materials, after all.
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              • Reincarnate
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                • Nov 2010
                • 6332

                #82
                Re: A world without money.

                I love how all my comments keep getting deleted just so that absurdly incorrect economic statements can be left standing without contest. FFR naturally favors the stupid.

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                • devonin
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10120

                  #83
                  Re: A world without money.

                  Originally posted by Reincarnate
                  I love how all my comments keep getting deleted just so that absurdly incorrect economic statements can be left standing without contest. FFR naturally favors the stupid.
                  Yeah your posts of

                  "Sigh"

                  and

                  "lololollolol"

                  really contributed to the critical discussion at hand.

                  Seriously guys, this isn't chit-chat or TGB, the nonsense bs posting doesn't belong.

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                  • Reincarnate
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6332

                    #84
                    Re: A world without money.

                    Originally posted by devonin
                    Yeah your posts of

                    "Sigh"

                    and

                    "lololollolol"

                    really contributed to the critical discussion at hand.

                    Seriously guys, this isn't chit-chat or TGB, the nonsense bs posting doesn't belong.
                    such statements indicate the sheer absurdity of the posts they follow.

                    am I supposed to seriously debate flatlanders and convince them the earth is round? or stork theory enthusiasts about how the reproductive system works?

                    i should be able to point out when retardation is rampant -- ESPECIALLY in economics. if you're going to delete posts, delete the nonsense. that isn't critical thinking, either.

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                    • devonin
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 10120

                      #85
                      Re: A world without money.

                      If you think they are so ridiculous that your original attempts to engage them properly according to the rules of the forum did nothing whatsoever, then the correct play is to ignore them from that point on, not spam post crap about how you think they are idiots.

                      That you think someone is an idiot is not something that has a place in this particular sub forum and you know that.

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                      • Reincarnate
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6332

                        #86
                        Re: A world without money.

                        the best defense against idiocy is to let idiocy stand? okay there

                        just because this is a "critical thinking" forum, that should not give people carte blanche to post complete bullshit -- I don't care where it is

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                        • Mulie
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 190

                          #87
                          Re: A world without money.

                          Ridicule doesn't enlighten. I suppose you could hope that your ridicule would prevent others from hopping on the fool's bandwagon, but it's not productive for CT.

                          Sometimes I have trouble not resorting to ridicule, too. Less often of late. Now quiet contemplation follows instead. One might argue that doing so would leave certain retaliatory emotions unattended, but it's becoming increasingly apparent to me that those are corollary.

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                          • devonin
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                            • Apr 2004
                            • 10120

                            #88
                            Re: A world without money.

                            Originally posted by Reincarnate
                            the best defense against idiocy is to let idiocy stand? okay there

                            just because this is a "critical thinking" forum, that should not give people carte blanche to post complete bullshit -- I don't care where it is
                            Once again:

                            Reasoned responses attempting to show them you think they are wrong: GOOD

                            Calling them an idiot and saying you've given up on them, but also, they are an idiot, lol: BAD

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                            • Reincarnate
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6332

                              #89
                              Re: A world without money.

                              Yeah you sure as hell didn't give me my carte blanche to have people show me with reasoned attempts to show why my flat earth theory was wrong, now did you?

                              and yet you will let economic crap go uncontested to the same tune?

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                              • devonin
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                                • Apr 2004
                                • 10120

                                #90
                                Re: A world without money.

                                If you fail to see how those two threads aren't the same, you shoudln't be posting in this subforum.

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